Rabbi Yossi Paltiel, a Crown Heights based educator and teacher of Chassidus, teaches a Maamar of the Alter Rebbe in Likkutei Torah of this week’s Parsha, Reah.
Why don’t we go to University? Are we afraid of real questions? Are we open minded or closed minded people?
This weekly Chassidus course by Rabbi Paltiel, sponsored in honor of the 60th birthday of Nechamah Chanin, is aired on TheYeshiva.net.
in today’s world college does not guarentee a job!!! there are many college graduates out on the street and in debt. dont buy into this false promise. believe me i have a college degree , that and $2.25get you on the subway. However if there were more training programs that just gave you core skills and cut out the shtus that is worth it not college!!!
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I’m sorry, but R. Paltiel is not the god-sent answer to all of our problems, he said what he did, and that’s all. If you think that having only bitachon helps you find a job, you are sadly mistaken my friend. He was only giving what he could, and nothing more; a small pat on the back, and a reassuring nod, sadly, he isn’t going to have a career counseling class with you.
What if you go to college and don’t study philosophy? Say you study only mathematics and computer programming…is it OK then?
You have a large family, debt, and kids who would consider college. It sounds like even with bitachon you are struggling. Are you suggesting that you would prevent them from going to college, guaranteeing that they will have to struggle as you do? Are you so selfish as to want them to have to struggle, too?
The “story” of the Alter Rebbe’s support of the Czar vs. Napolean, i.e. ruchniyus health over gashmiyus wealth comes to mind here. Perhaps the question here is one of Bitachon. If I am meant to live comfortably…will that be able to happen without a college education? And if I am meant to struggle -ch”v – will a college education somehow outwit the Aibeshter?
P.S. I have a large family, and lots of tuition debt…and kids that would consider college – if I agreed to it.
Rabbi Paltiel, what would you say to all those people who do not have a Parnassa, what should they do?
And you can’t tell me that all of those that are struggling lack Betochon, I know many very Ehrliche Yidden who struggle.
Isn’t college as a vessel for a livelihood a good thing?
Correct, college education does not equal money.
But, as per a recent WSJ article, unemployment among those without degrees is double those with degrees. In addition, those with degrees on average have higher paying jobs, to the value of having recouped the cost of education in 5 years.
So, while you are correct, college does not equal money,the lack of college most definitely does contribute to the lack of money.
Oh, and “collage” helps with spelling, too.
to 17
but it sure helps!!!
Collage does not equal money.
Outside of Touro, Stern, and YU, what other Jewish colleges are there, and if they exist, can you earn a “real” degree from them?
could you repeat that in english? sounds interesting but some of us don’t know so much yiddish…thanks
THANK YOU!!
I completely agree with #1. As a frum girl at a non-Jewish university, I can tell you that there is a thriving Jewish community there, with shuirim on campus, a kosher cafeteria, and a huge Jewish chevra to be with. In addition, I know that when I graduate, I will be able to make a good parnassah and together with my husband, provide for my family. Since I plan on sending my children to Jewish schools and not begging for money from others, university education is a must whether you like it or not.
I got my hands on as much material from the Rebbe on the subject before I made the decision to go to college. What hurts me most is the many young balei batim in their late 20’s and 30’s struggeling to support their familes. They confide in me that they resent the system and the mashpiim that taught them not to go to college. More and more these parents are planning to make sure their children have a career plan that includes college before the kids get married. What I wish is Rabbi Paltiel, who is an incredible mashpia and… Read more »
rabbi,i sat in your shurim for a few years. where you bashed going to college and how a person should not go to learn a trade before getting married.i did as you taught and now i struggle daily to make a parnasah and now to learn a trade that will provide enough money for the outrages tuition fees will be an extremely up hill battle.
the examples you give should say mamash punkt farket.
you should know that those takonois poshut effected the parnoso, and in the end the rabbonon changed legabei oil. but the etzem point is punkt farkert, please do not subvert the facts.
it is very obvious by what you have written that you did not even listen to the lecture…
how many of you actually listened to the whole video
Unreal teacher!!! Thank you!
The system has failed us. It’s hurting us, our children and grandchildren if we don’t take action. Who can pay tuition these days? We have no alternative.
Mazal Tov to Mrs. Chanin! Many more happy, healthy years and lots of nachas from all your beautiful children
to #1:
I believe the Rebbe responded to your very complaints in the FIFTY’S! (scattered throughout the first 4 volume’s of Likutei Sichos)
R. Paltiel, may he live long and be blessed, is discussing the issue with learning philosophy What about learning math and engineering? Architecture? Law? Medicine? ETC!!!!???
‘Why don’t we go to college?’ Look around you. We do. Don’t whitewash reality.
Rabbi Paltiel, You got to be in touch with your time, many Minhogim and Halochos were enacted for the times: Bishul Akum, Stam Yaynom…. Mishum Chasonos. We live in the Internet age, a time that Parnasa is a challenge; Koddesh does not have many opportunities. We need to encourage and provide our children the tools to be able to make a Parnasa, it might be best for the person to go to college/university. Today we have BH many jewish colleges that facilitates our children to be in a Jewish environment. We do understand that there is risk of what we… Read more »