From the COLlive Inbox:
This is not a question that gets asked often enough, and frankly, I’m shocked that it’s come this far.
I’m a father from a pretty well-known Lubavitcher family.
I grew up in Crown Heights, went to several prominent yeshivas myself, and sent my children to them as well.
Over the last few years, we have seen a tremendous increase in the amount of crowd fundraisers, and while I’m not an incredibly wealthy person, I am blessed to have more than my family needs, and am often in a position to contribute.
I am telling you all this for a reason.
If I were raising funds for a school, who would I identify as my “target donors”?
Maybe I have a Rolodex of consistent donors and supporters, maybe I call select few individuals who have previously expressed their shared passion and interest for what we were trying to accomplish?
Or perhaps, I would try to call actual ALUMNI from my school?
You see, many of the more prominent and established schools in the Chabad community have been around for at least 20-25 years, and beyond.
That means that a man in his 40s like myself, was likely, at one point, a student in that school.
But what happens after my 1,2,3 or even 4 years as a student in that Yeshiva?
Frankly, nothing.
Don’t get me wrong, I am not looking for a phone call from every institution I’ve even been a part of to contribute to their fundraiser.
But from a donor’s standpoint, even if I did get a call, would I be inclined to donate?
I haven’t heard from you in 27 years!
There seems to be a massive disconnect.
If you, as an institution have been around for 20,30+ years, and you have a reputation of being a stand-up school for generations of Chabad families, totaling thousands of students, you cannot be surprised when your online fundraiser doesn’t reflect that success.
You cannot expect to put a notice out about your fundraiser, and just sit back and wait for your thousands of alumni and their families to come running to your campaign page.
It doesn’t work like that, you haven’t done anything to cultivate this relationship, and unfortunately, the relationship wasn’t strong enough to begin with to sustain decades of complete radio silence.
There is, however, some good news.
I am an alumni of Morristown Yeshiva, and while they do not have a proper alumni database in place, their recent fundraiser saw them making incredible headway in that department, and I feel like there is incredible change happening, with more still to come.
In closing, to mosdos in Chabad: Don’t let the relationship die!
You have a massive opportunity to unite so many, spanning generations, behind a common denominator: Alumni of your school!
As some of the larger donations to Morristown’s campaign would indicate, you never know how strongly this relationship could benefit the mosad down the road.
Thanks for reading.
How many staff were there in these prominent yeshivos? How many boys did you have in your class?
Maybe that answers the question – they can’t keep up with them, unless you reach out.
These days with emails, and whastapp very easy to stay in touch
the ratio in Lubavitch between Mashpi’im and Bochurim / Ballebatim is probably 1 to 1000 if not greater.
Would love to see their mailing list…
And lets not forget that most ppl have instagram and facebook. So now there is rly no excuse.
Mishpi’im and magidei shiurim don’t have Facebook or Instagram. The ones I know don’t even have smart phones. Shluchim need to use social media for their shlichus, but people working with bochurim in yeshivos know very well the dangers of modern technology (from seeing the effect it has on bochurim) and they make sure not to sucked into it. I’m not saying its not a good idea to keep in touch with alumni, just don’t expect mashpiim to use social media for it.
If not than sorry.
I am an Alumni of Toronto and in their recent fundraiser, nearly every single alumni class put together a team page for the campaign.
Toronto is the best place and we got emails from rabbi Wagner
Very special person rabba wagner is. May his neshama have an aliyah
I’m an alumni of Toronto Zal and in their recent fundraiser nearly every single alumni class made a team page. Says something about the connection of Alumni and Yeshiva.
Of course the weekly emails kept me in touch , but they were never personalized, except for the mazal tov’s The reason why I feel connected to Toronto zal ,is because when I was in yeshiva, Rabbi Wagner knew who I was , and so did every other staff member , I felt cared for, relevant and sometimes when I needed it , a lot of the time, the Rosh yeshiva was staring at me, or right through me – those piercing eyes of someone who has your best interest , demanding me for more !? and therefore when I… Read more »
The most caring Hanhalla member I’ve met.
While it wonderful for the Yeshiva to stay in touch with their alumni it is usually one teacher or student who initiates an ongoing connection. Every person who learned in a school for a number of years owes a debt of gratitude to that Mosad.
I don’t need any more soliciting thanks
A campaign is not the place to start “cultivating” alumni.
The yeshiva has many maalos, no need to make ones that dont exist!
It pays to point out that Bais Rivkah has been making that effort — with their Embrace magazine and events. Thank you, Mrs. Sara Blau and everyone else behind it!
Yeshivahs should hire someone for this position and they will see results many times over. This person can coordinate events, reunions, send birthday reminders, make regional farbrengens, send newsletters where they publish mazal tovs and life events, etc.
They will see return on their invetment many times over.
I know a prominent non-Chabad yeshivah that does this well (Har Etzion) and it’s very telling and mutually rewarding.
Har Etzion is fantastic yeshiva. We have a lot we can learn from them.
Yeshiva Schools of Pittsburgh does this!
I once gave a small amount to my old mesivta and did not receive as much as a thank you letter.
What mosdos don’t appreciate it that larger gift start with small ones. If you appreciate the small ones, you’ll get the big ones.
This is very well said. Having spent time in the best Chabad and Litvish Yeshivos, I believe that Chabad is unfortunately far behind the Litvish Yeshivos in terms of alumni engagement, quality of the mechanchim and quality of the chinuch. If only our Yeshivos knew how valuable the alumni are. The vast majority of Litvish Yeshivos are supported primarily by alumni who take pride in having gone to their respective Yeshiva. It’s well worth the investment on the Yeshiva’s end. There’s no reason Chabad has to trailing far behind.
That’s exactly what I was thinking about ! Thank you
The Hanhola and admin keep in touch with Students for decades after they leave
Yeshivos are for teaching bochurim not cultivating potential donors or even keep its alumni in the loop.
Yeshivos should continue to teach bochurim and people that value that should contribute, stay focused.
Harav Hagoen Rabbi Wagner A”H did that more that any one or any Mosed I’ve ever seen he would send emails to the general Alumni, keep in touch with individuals and even people he didn’t speak to every day still felt connected to him. As can be seen by all the story’s coming from the Alumni after he passed away. May his Neshama have an Aliya and may we merit to be reunited with him, with the coming of Moshiach speedily to end this bitter Galus. AD MOSAI! Ps. Maybe other Yeshivos can learn from his example and try to… Read more »
The yeshivas and girls schools can also help strengthen Yiddishkeit, including ahavas Yisroel, in their former students and get ideas from former students, who may not have children now at the yeshiva, on how they could have improved and what they considered the positive qualities too. Maybe this should be done before soliciting money.
A few years ago I went over to say hello to the dean of a certain yeshiva that I learned in almost 3 decades ago. The dean shook my hand and said “I think your father still owes me money” My father did not owe him money, being that I needed the BA from the yeshiva, so I paid off the remaining $600 tuition almost two decades ago. it was that insult, that made me close my door to that yeshiva. There is no value in the boys (alumni) themselves, unless they have already made it big, then they’ll find… Read more »
the phone works both ways
Among the teachers and staff if the alum didnt find one that he wants to be in touch with. Huge problem.
And if he did, which is likely, (at least once a long many years in different places) then HE OR SHE should keep in touch…
As the Rosh recently celebrated shnas hagvurah let me share the following. I never learnt in LA. But BH my son learnt there this year. I went to visit him a few weeks back. I went over to the Rosh and i told him that my chavrusa who i learn with everyday and i mentioned him by name has asked me to ask the Rosh a shaila. As quick as a flash he responded before he asks a question he needs to reach out to his chavrusa and he must be mekarev him. My chavrusa learnt in LA more than… Read more »
Honestly, the school I went to didn’t give the impression that they cared a whole lot about us as students while we studied there.
Every time they call (which is every time they have a fundraiser), I ask them to lose my number.
The change needs to start in the school, not when they want your donations.
There should be Whatsapp groups for allumni, and events/reunions etc.
He has called or emailed every birthday that my son has had. He is now a fifth grader! I heard he calls all his former students. Forget about fundraising, what a way to make a child feel special and loved!
Bh the zal in tzfas, with more than 4,000 alumni, has a yearly program for alumni, where they can come back to Yeshiva for a day and recharge with the tmimim.
Im 28
Bh don’t have extra money but I make an effort to give something to all campaigns that contact me.
My mesivta made a campaign this past year and I haven’t heard from them since I was there, as an alumni I recieved a message with the link (first message ever) I gladly gave $180.
Never heard from them again.
Agree with writer
Have mosdos hire people to keep alumni involved…
It time for aluminai of 770 to show הכרת הטובand help renew and enlarge it as per the Rabbe’s wish
All the shluchim built their במות. Yes theyuse CH. use 770x. Do they realize the cost of maintaing the place? Ipay over 400 to have a seat there and there is no space for the founders. ודי לחכימה. Iam a resident of C h for over70 years. Chabad was poor poor poor, came a none Lubavitcher Mr Klien and payed to enlarge the Shul. Now is time for the sucseful שלוחים.
From reading the article and the above comments. It seems to me that those who went to smaller yeshivos got the attention they needed and are more willing to give back in the future. That being said. The bigger yeshivos let way too many kids fall through the cracks. I’m not even talking about the kids on the edge. I mean the average boy/girl who is neither troubled nor a star performer. They get no attention in yeshivah. I’m talking from experience… If the yeshivah won’t keep up with alumni, at the very least keep up woth kids currently at… Read more »
RABBI VECHTER!!!!!! the best mashpia calling at all times to make sure your doing good
even when you say oh im busy now he will call you later!
ty rabbi
and GO NACHMAN!!!
What if they kept in touch while they are there
How about stay in touch to see how you are doing. Maybe once in 5 years? Just to talk….. or maybe while you’re in their walls, not only when they need your money.
Coming from a 29 year old single who went to Chabad schools. It would be extremely helpful that I can’t even put into words. If a staff member contacted me, and really cared to see if they can help me out in any way with Shidduchum. I’ve been to the schools and learned how important it is to get married. But the second I leave, if I wasn’t one of the louder girls, I’m completely forgotten.