A group called “Agudas Avreichei Lubavitch” is taking to the lines in an effort to tackle educational issues in a forthright manner.
The new hotline “Lma’an Yishme’u” was launched “in line with the recent awakening regarding Yiras Shomayim and Tznius,” the group said.
It was introduced to offer content for parents to give over to their children, as per the call of Rabbi Ahron Gancz in his controversial lecture in Crown Heights about Tznius.
The hotline, available at 347-498-0008, includes a short Dvar Torah, a point in Halacha and a story focusing on the aspect of Yiras Shomayim.
The audio recording will be updated weekly and is free of charge.
I see there are those who oppose any “outside meddling” in their personal lives. While this method will certainly not work here, but still those people who think they will hide their heads in the ground while their their wives and daughters go around not just Chabad arousing all kinds of nasty thoughts but around the outside world and nothing will come of it. So we learn in Chassidus that “what goes around, comes around.” Nobody is arguing that it is easy to tell our wives and children to “please dress tznius”. However to completely ignore it and get upset… Read more »
comment on #8 FYI Denver, CO has a wonderful Bais Yaakov and those girls are very careful to dress according to halacha.
I think that this issue has gone a bit too far. The name calling is exactly what we should not be doing. We need to remember that what we wear is minhag not mitzvah. To cover your hair with a shaitel that is better looking than your own hair is questionable. We are supposed to look beautiful only for our husband, sometimes what some call tznios because they are the ones wearing them, is not just so. Worried about the name on the label, the color of the shirt matching the color of your eyes or hair, etc. We have… Read more »
They say that there is a tzadik in every generation who has the ability to be the moshiach, well, the Rebbe, may he rest in peace, was a great tzadik, and may have been able to be the moshiach in his time, but until we stop being judge and jury over each others actions, allowing each other to be the best yid they can be, moshiach will never be able to reveal him/herself. I think it’s about time that we look inside of ourselves instead of into others actions as it states in hashkivaynu, pick up a siddur and study… Read more »
someone who wants you to do good,
not good for THEM but your good!
-good for you
-good for your family (children and $)
-good for your neshomo
-good for your community
-good for all the brochos guarantied by our rebbe
so please dont take it as attacking you or HATE at you
they want something that is actually good for you b’ruchnius and b’gashmiyus!
so view as they looove you, even if they may lack some tact!
the way you dress in public affects: 1) not just those visiting a frum/chabad community for the first time, 2) not just the public BUSHSA of chabad to the frum world 3) not just deeply hurting those who care about preserving the dignity and decorum of our comunity 4) not just R”L the negative-curses listed in Zohar and Yirmiyahu for thev entire klal! 5) not just cruel and cold to a bakasha nafshis to the Rebbeh! 6) but most importantly! the exaggerated implications on our youth, who tend to take things one step further R”L so pleease pleease just realize… Read more »
do you really believe that anyone who dresses un-tznius is got REBELLIOUS ISSUES?
c;mon dont label me just bec you hate me
nebach nebach,,, trying to make us out as “hurting inside” self esteem issues, no luv, blah blah blah
you galz are all nebs who dont appreciate style
ne ne ne its too slutty… get a life
do yoyu really live by that statement?? …”no one tells me wat to do”… i get the feeling that you do bow to other ppls opinions, only instead of G-d’s taste! you worship whatever your neighbor thinks is hot, you DO certainly do what others tell you to, OTHERS like shixus in hollywood! OTHERS like on 42 st OTHERS like devas whose lives are train wrecks! OTHERS like the self-hating nebach cases walking on kingston wishing they could go like chava before chet eitz hadaas! what you need is some maturity, self respect, and self awareness to realize WHO is… Read more »
ARE U A REBELLIOUS GROWNUP WITH UNRESOLVED RESENTMENT TO AUTHORITY?
U NEED HELP! IF U KNOWINGLY DO AGAINST G’S WILL (AKA HALACHA)
I HOPE YOUR COMMENT IS JUST A TROLL!
tsnius is what g-d wants, not Rabbi Gances!
no one tells me wat to do
yes trend is shifting! bec we finally hit rock bottom, and ppl are waiking up and shocked re the image that looks back at them in the mirror,
it happened very gradually, step by small-step
and they are horrified by what kind of “lowlife-slut” the have suddenly become!! with less dignity than a normal self respecting goy!
all of u get a life and stop putting others down bec the disagree with your taste!
give credit where credit is due,
the improvements are the Open-minded ladies who acyually care about there family, and realized the trash they make of themselves to the onlookers!
stop claimming that its the new style the are just peered preasured by,
credit to thes self respecting moms, and credit to yagdil T. etc and all the men who had the courage to speak up openly with there wives who in the past they were scared to offend, by sharing there discomfort!
when 1 breaks halacha, your not breaking man’s rule! halacha is G-D’S will (undisputed!!!) breaking halacha on kingston ave is not similar to it is 100% SIMPLY BREKING G-D’S WILL “BEFARHESYAEH” R”L R”L do you really believe that HASHEM will give you a happy life as you publically have the “CHUTZPAO” TO DISS HIM, day after day, i’m not referring to one who wasnt raised religious! all i can say to all those who dress like $20….. watch out, WATCH OUT!!! not from the “taliban” but from the most powerful boss!! i was beorught up to love and FEAR Hashem!… Read more »
hope your right on the trnd issue, i soped visiting c.h bec i cringe each time i see what these (poor) ladies are doing to the selves!
i pray that the Trend the Shiur, The awareness campaign, what ever it takes, to restore some well deserved respect to our beloved Rebbeh (and his shchuna and ppl)
i’ve lived in c.h. for the last 10 years, clearly the trend is swinging back, it goes according to style, the style is now shifting to more classy looks, less slutty
soo why all the speeches? if it all comes down to self esteem?
they are hurting inside, what they need is more TLC, more joy, More “toichin”
they should be encouraged to get involved in some form of meaningful “giving” Mivtzoyim, Shlichus. Bikur choilim, Teaching etc etc
then they wont be soo vulnerable to peer pressure or the wrong kind of attention,
live n let live is a nice line, the way you are destroying the fabric of our community is anything but, live and let live
“your passive aggressive” in you damage yet no less serious than, an active virus (metaphorically speaking)
its everyone’s biz what you are destroying!
u cant drill a hole in a ship we all share and say its my seat!! my biz!!
follow your own advice! dress in a way that allows you to live with self respect!
and allow all who have some decency left to live too!!
the way u degrade our streets and our name around the world etc is not just your own personal biz, who gives you the right to damage our streets our youth our dignity!? what you need is help! you are too messed up to see beyond your own selfish obsessions, and the devastating impact you behavior has on the rest of us! i dont despise you! g-d forbid, only your self-denegrading actions, and its negative ripple affect! listen! to what ppl are telling u, its for your own good, and for you children’s good! u cant win w/o g’ds blessings,… Read more »
its very simple! all you “halacha thumping preachers” get a life and mind your own business!!!!!!!!!!!!
what i do, doesnt concern you, so to i dont tell you how to dress!
for this to work u need a multi-pronged approach,
dealing with the underlying emotional causes if this crisis!
i’d love to sponsor a public-forum debate between both camps in chabad, i’d personally donate 10k to facilitate such an event!
J Stein MA
Friend of chabad
u can always guaranty a flood of comments
i second that! men should understand that 1, they can make their wives feel more pretty, 2, they should fork over the money!!
i used to dress this way very recently, now that i i no longer dress down, i think i can relate to the “frustration” of all those who dress tzniusly and stylish, you feel its not that easy to 123 be attractive! its really hard to get youself feeling pretty, as fast and as easy. bc we (my former self) rely on skin and hear to compensate for our lack of looks, instead of more money on better clothing we just let the “pritzis” do the job, 123 attractive, no need for effort or expensive shopping, half of these ladies… Read more »
As I don;t live in CH, I watched the class online. It was great, and absolutely not commanding or judgemental. I hope all of you saw it or plan on watching it.
Be inspired!
A gut voch
u r unusual
hope many more r like u
thaks to Yagdil Torah for Rabbis Gelukowsky and Gancz
first findout for yourself the goodies rewarded by H’ for modety! secondly, think for one min. and youll realize long list of dangers and problems that “pritzus” is bringing, i’d rather leave it to your imagination than spelling it out RL a big percentage of young women in our community have a lot of problems, and problems (of THAT sort) brings more problems RL, its nice to see the wake up call, and how popular the out cry has become, i knew it had to bottom out soon or ch”v who knows what it would take to shake things up… Read more »
this is good news!
i am one of those who needed a little info+TLC to get it right, i believe that there are 3 kinds of girls
ONE:
the choir they already understan the importance and no trends will influence them!!
TWO:
the ones that are unreachable and are willing to do anything to get their cheap (disgusting) thrill!
THREE:
this is ME and ppl like my self who simply dont know enough!! and would be motivated by the Rebbe’s promises and the mussar threats loy-aleinu!
it is THREE: who this kinda shayur is gonna be productive for
to the pro halacha camp: teach chasanim how to prevent a “desperate house wife” to the anti halacha camp: know what your desperation is revealling to the public about you: 1) no yiras shomayim, 2) no self respect 3) no consideration for the name of chabad -in the frum velt 4) no feelings 4the locals/visitors who’r devastated/hurt 5) no concern for the longterm good of you children (sicha) 6) no shame 2publicly, “faif-un” our rebbe’s bakasha-nafshi 7) no shame 2advertise your body parts 2another’s husbnd 8) no fear of causing averos of the worst kind to bochurim 9) no care… Read more »
It’s quite interesting how sensitive all those that were insulted by #3 are.
Let’s take these comments like “a man” and grow from them, we are all one family, aren’t we? let’s consider it as constructive critiscism.
ha ha ha?! You square people are so off!”
sounds a little hypocritical! dont you think?
thanks anyway for the hayom yom!! rite on the $! re how to help this problem
#3 should move to Miami or to Cuba and start his communist patrol (or mea shearim)
and presentable sensible people that can actually smile and are not morons should represent what it means to be “chasidish.
There is no one for whom to pride oneself.
We must toil strenuously.
With patience and friendliness we can prevail in all things, with G-d’s help.
With a denigrating attitude toward others and inflating our own importance we lose everything, G-d forbid.
hahaha! You square people are so off!
Make nice looking modern cloths that are tzniusdik at the same time. Make it easy for woman to dress nicely and they will dress better. And most important (in my humble opinion), girls wearing “mini skirts” or whatever it’s just like guys trimming their beards, it’s a symptom, and NOT the disease. They are doing it because they are unhappy with the way some people, like #3 represent yidsh/chasidishkait. #3 should move to Miami or to Cuba and start his communist patrol (or mea shearim) and people that can actually smile and are not morons should represent what it means… Read more »
On the contrary – dressing nicely means and is the epitome of dressing in a Kosher fashion. Remember the story of the King that went about naked? And the young boy that made fun of him. Boy does that story come to mind, these days a lot!
It may have been long ago, but the Torah is above time – so let’s remember Pinchos who found the prince of one of the shevotim with another woman and speared them both with the same spear, and killed them both. He was not only REWARDED by G-d, but his children and their children were rewarded as well. He also prevented the Yidden from all being punished. Let’s do all we can to avoid letting those kinds of situations from happening c’v. By dressing appropriately, that is – modestly (and yes that means beautifully, in the way the Torah tells… Read more »
but true!
when you choose to dress in a provocative way in public, you should at least do soo, with the full appreciation of the harm and pain you are imposing on your family, onlookers, community and sheim-chabad! degrading yourself is one thing! depriving your family of the prosperity and blessings (listed in zohar) hurting soo many who care for the standards and dignity of our shared streets bringing busha to the rebbe’s name and community not to mention the collective punishment to klal yisroel for pritzus R”L are you really that cruel? i dint think so! you simply know very little… Read more »
I do think that C H should be getting a little stronger with its standards of Tznius, that includes also language which I see by the comments, is not the greatest. There is nothing wrong with being firm about our standards of tznius to all those who feel no shame in walking up and down the streets in miniskirts, and to those who watch tv in their homes. Once we get lenient with Tznius our standards of yiddishkit go on a one way street downwards. There is no magical solution, and we are not the Taliban, but we do have… Read more »
Is Tznius the issue now? Is roaming the streets to spy on who is doing what and when and where? Has this issue so inflamed people to randomly choose who they feel does not dress according to the standards and then berate them publicly. Those of you who have taken it upon themselves to be the EYE that SEES and Chastizes.. what do you teach your children..At night you say Shema with them and in the morning as they eat breakfast you speak to your husband or your friend on the phone gossiping about your neighbor. As you say your… Read more »
The internet is no place for chassidim to be. There are trillions of megabytes of shtus only a click away from this page. A yungerman once told me that he does not believe anyone with internet has not used it for shtus at some point or another. That same Yungerman’s wife told me that she took her husband’s laptop to the school where she works (Ramaz) to show the children a presentation. When she turned the computer on a picure of shtus popped up! The yungerman was not very computer literate and didn’t seem to know how to surf porn… Read more »
Be Ger or be Skver or be Lubavitcher…( be there or be square..)
Everybody in this world has room for improvement in some way and the fact that tznius has become the most dominant is very sad. While it is a problem, there are far more serious problems in this neighborhood. The fighting and sinas chinam between jews has far greater consequence than tznius. Those people in power just dont want to concentrate on whats really going on and are using tznius as a crutch. Everybody has to learn to respect each others opinions and until that happens how can you expect them to respect themselves?
is this discussion tznius, is this campaign tznius
this is only going to turn people off
I don’t think we should send people back home if they are untsznius, but we can definitely make a little comment. I know you will call me naive, but very often, girls/ladies who consider themselves tznius make mistakes, and do’nt realize that their clothes are too tight or see through. It happened to me once that I was in a religious shechuna and an old lady I absolutely didn’t know stopped me to tell me that I should be more careful about tznius, bcause my t-shirt was not befitting a true bas israel. I gave it some thought and decided… Read more »
This line is so beautiful and informative. It is short and to the point.
If ppl would listen in they would realize that their negative comments are totally out of place. They are talking the language of a child trying to stick up for themselves when they know they are wrong!
If you thought you were right walking around the shchuna of the Rebbe the way you are you would never post anything.
H’ Should help and return your heart that it should be moach shoilet ol halev and not the other way around.
You are greatly mistaken! Dressing immodestly is not only bein adaom l’mokom it is bein adam l’chveira as well and not many aveiros bring others to sin like this aveira for which the Torah says we need to all owourselves to be killed for. When you decide to eat pork 3 X daily that’s your problem but bringing girls and boys to look at you, which to the Torah is considered public property, you are actually being an evil person. Hashem Yerachem!
People don’t really believe in G-d and Judaism in a tangible way anymore, that’s the real problem. And the reason? Because G-d left us too long in this rotten exile – He burnt His cholent. Rebbe? Halachah? Those are meaningless words for one who couldn’t care less about the first terms I used. CH looks like a beach, the men are just as far off the derech as the women are; the problem with tznius is that it also draws the men even further away than they already are, and so on and on – until we start opening up… Read more »
Id like to tell you all sencerly that i am inspired by the way you loubavitch dress. i learn at touro college and I’m friends with many loubavich girls. so some girls are not as tznius as they should be… but the loubavitch girls are so much more confidant with their jewdaism than they are in other religious circles
Crown Heights is hopeless. A lot of people have the common mistake that Crown Heights is a Lubavitcher Community. It is not. Lubavitchers are those who follow Halacha and the Rebbe all the way. Most Crown Heightsers don’t do it.
I personally haven’t stepped a foot in Crown Heights in years (except for family simchas). There is no reason to put yourself in such a position
it doesn’t belong to us it belongs to hashem
it’s the REBBE’s shechuna!
It is so sad to read all these comments. While I agree that we shouldn’t have someone walking down the street reminding people of tsnius, I think that we should all really take a good look at ourselves, especially in our times of so many tsaros and realign ourselves with our purpose.
And yes, we don’t like being told that tsnius should be improved, but just take a good look outside.
We want Moshiach right. It is up to all of us.
decency and mentshlichkeit! please
show some respect to decorum for the sake of the dignity of the rebbeh and chabad
i’m not even gonna start about what brochos your family is loosing
dress they way you want, just don’t be upset when you kids need a drug rehab or hanging out in clubs doing…………….
The parents are the child’s biggest Role Model Wake up quickly and smell reality it doesn’t have to do with Chasidshe etc.. it has to do with being a frum Yid who lives in the Rebbe’s Schuchna
you are missing one obvious factor! namely that as chasidim we trust the REBBE’s words as 100% sooner or latter all (scientists and DRs who ever) disagreed with the Rebbeh were always proven wrong! with the Rebbe’s track record, why would any mother risk depriving her entire family (children) of all the promises and fortune the Rebbeh guaranteed to those who go out on ms”n for tznius! why would a mother: a) doubt the Rebbeh b) deny her family all the brachos, c) disgrace her dignity d) shame the name of chabad e) hurt and offend soo many in the… Read more »
the real problem is young women with deplorable self image issues its got nothing at all todo with KNOWING the halachos its got everything todo with knowing (thinking) that i am a worthless nothing and therfore anything goes,! RL i’ve never met a Happy well adjusted young women with a craving to expose more than halacha allows get to know any one of these women personally (let them open up to you) you’ll see, that behind those fake smiles is a “shattered-selfesteem” probably by a bully -teacher or student these girls feel no shame b/c there is no inner (toichin)… Read more »
if you saw short sleeves press 1
if you saw too high heels press 2
A big Yasher Koyach!
I recommend everyone to live in Crown Heights Housing is cheap. I Hope we see more None religious people moving in.
Thank you to all the Big chassidim for building new cheao buildings
Im sorry to break the news to you all but Crown Heights dosnt belong to any of you.
We can dress how we like when we like.
to #3 I do hope you stop someone on the street and they break your nose
the street belongs to the public!! we all share the Noise pollution, Gas pollution and yes visual pollution, by dialing 311 we may intervene on the Noise and Fumes and perhaps even some kinds of visual-offenses, learn some halach about “HEZEK RE’IYA” before you render your opinion that its ones own private business with H’ its very much bein addam lachaveiroi! and those who show indifference to the sensitiviteis of halacha and yidishkeit in a frum community, are nothing more than selfish cold brats with very low charactor and decency! i write my comments from the perspective of an outsider… Read more »
the way the streets look, affects:
1) not just those visiting a frum/chabad community for the first time,
2) not just the public BUSHSA of chabad to the frum world
3) not just deeply hurting those who care about preserving the dignity of our comunity
4) not just the R”L the negative-curses listed in Zohar and Yirmiyahu for thev entire klal!
5) not just cruel and cold to a bakasha nafshis to the Rebbeh!
6) but most importantly! the exaggerated implications on our youth, who tend to take things one step further R”L VDA”L
Although people have lectured, wrote, blogged and commented about this before, people don’t seem to get the message. In large part, the Tznius problem is NOT a superficial one. You will not solve the problem by telling people to “dress Tznius” or establishing a terror group to plaster the neighborhood with signs, and tell people outright to “go home and change”! The problem is DEEPLY rooted, and needs to be tackled from the ROOTS up. The source of the problem is one word: “Insecurity”. I am no psychologist, but we all know that insecurities come from not being noticed, not… Read more »
hey, #11. nice pun. #23. I like your approach – accost the rabbis in the street for their public lack of achdus before you accost people for their dress code. you think maybe there’s a connection?? and my comment: there’s something fundamentally wrong with this entire debate, including the fact that ganz’ even made any prsentation. dress code is an issue bein odom lamokom – between man and gd. people can debate what to forcefeed (“chinuch”) very minor children, but young and regular adults??? true if i dress in an untznius fashion you may have to look away, but such… Read more »
I had a member from the our Shlichus community say that they were turned off from Lubavitvch because: OF THE WAY THEY DRESS!!!!!! and I’m sure she is not the only one. I think some serious thinking needs to be done, before you dress in those tight short jean skirts and who knows what else. Who are we trying to impress? The peer pressure with the Tznius issue, has gotten so bad (and sad).So to all of those who dress not in the way that the Rebbe would be proud is showing a serious lack of self confidence. All I… Read more »
How many of these commentors on here actually called this hotline? I read 1 comment that said they did. ONE!!! instead of arguing here, why not start putting into practice what is trying to be attained here, and call the hotline. I myself intend to do so right after this.
yo, if you dont care about the ppl on the street or you dont care about halacha,
at least stop displaying your defensiveness
may be i’m the only one who actually gained from the hoopla of this topic, but i’m proud to admit that as a mom of three, i was not cognizant at all about the importance dressing tzniusly,
for me, all it really took was reading the Blessings and rewards promissed in Zohar and the Rebbeh!
i made a simple cheshbon, the man was never wrong!
why should i deprive my family from these Brochos!!
thanks to all who put this out there
#3 was a troll. A very successful troll.
I want to know who that young heavily pregnant woman is I saw on Kingston today heading with her toddler towards the rides (she is local.) In her tight black lycra top she looked like she swallowed a beach ball. SHE needs these classes & so does her husband for letting her go out looking like that! Apart from being totally untznius, it was repulsive. I can’t blame outsiders (& insiders!) for saying Crown Heights women are untznius (that’s when they are being polite.) I am ashamed of what goes on here. I guess these women don’t have mirrors at… Read more »
I meant #5
# 3….that is not the way!!
actually our Rebbe explicitly does pasken!! that a skirt must be long enough to cover while sitting, and the general consensus is, that it is around four inches below the knee.. mikol mokom all this talk about taliban, reporting to police vechulu, is so indicitive of where these commenters are holding. our torah clearly says we have to rebuke our fellow (albeit with limitations, and with love) also halacha places the blame of others poor conduct on those that let it occur without and hinderance. thats all true with regards to the whole torah. but with regards to tznius the… Read more »
# 3, if they dress modestly then you have nothing to worry about.
thank you – so well put!
“…the Rebbe accepted everyone…” Yes. From outside. He was at times exceptionally sharp on his (inside) chassidim. (I know of one who received a rap; so he wrote to the Rebbe saying he didn’t realize that the Rebbe considered him such a close chosid.) It’s all the tolerance and PC that goes on in Lubavitch which is seriously diluting it as a derech in avoidas Hashem (which it always was – and tolerance in the appropriate place is part of that. But tolerance in an in-appropriate situation is not part of it.) It would be wrong to have a “G-d… Read more »
wow! this is so special. much hatzlacha, and i hope that those with the negative comments will stop trying to defend the nefesh habeamis by finding fault in all that is G-dly
what did denver colorado do to deserve that?
We should walk over to our rabbis and tell them to be shamed of their fighting
Why do we have to feel embarrased to dress Tzniusdik?
Why do I fell out of place in CH?
Is something wrong?????
#3 did not say we need to hit anyone,or throw them out of CH,all they are saying is that people should be told what they are doing is wrong. if make ppl shamed to dress non-tznius make people think twice before they go out in a mini skirt. in todays world in ch girls from 3 years to 90 yo think they must dress not-tznius in order to look good they feel in order to be with it they need to show as much skin as they can. thats what we must change. we need to show them its not… Read more »
Just like our schools’ approach!!!! Why do you think many of the young women act and dress the way that they do. All those years in Bais Rivka, where this obnoxious power-trip/self righteous “better than you” attitude has caused so many girls to either become “shmatas” or rebellious instead of strong, proud, knowledgeable and solidly frum young women. Something is off and it needs to be fixed and not just by tightening the rules, regulations and punishments. Thiry five years ago people were not judging each other as much and were more lenient in many ways. To too many people,… Read more »
As much as you would like to think that aggression and scare tactics will do the job, i have some bad news for you Just like #5 there are many others that will appose it and will use the law to make sure it will stop The only way to ensure that people follow the Tznius laws is by educating parents who will pass it on to their children all values start at home! parents need to pay attention and talk alot about it with their kids and not only wake up when it is almost too late parents who… Read more »
First of all think what you are saying..Are you now assuming the role of the Taliban or Nazism?? Are you assuming the role of G-d. If you walk down the streets and stop women who are in your opinion not Tznius you will begin a war and CH has enough wars already. Dont you think G-d wants peace, do you not think that each person carries his own weaknesses and it is only that person who can uplift themselves… I live in CH, I am Jewish and I am not religious.. I wear pants, and whatever I feel I want… Read more »
I called the hotline and was suprised to hear how good it was.
It was well prepared and delivered, and was very interesting with many stories.
I will pass it on to whoever I know.
Call for yourself!!! (and listen to the end…)
obviously you don’t know halacha if you state “they dress modestly according to halacha” for halacha clearly states in many places that the minimum rules for tznius are uniform and unbending. and the maximum is decided according to the prevelant custom of yerei shamayim (not prutzois, kiposhut).
BH a group of people have come together to do something, instead of just sitting aound, complaining or criticizng.
Keep up the good work!
you are forgeting that this is a free country, although people leaving in CH should have respect the way they dress, if you will stop anyone you may find yourself spending the night in central booking with bobo,
I would suggest sending a friendly remainder in the mail to anyone who is noticed dressed inappropriately on the streets of CH, stating that thisis the Rebbe’s Shuchuna, and we should be setting an example to other communities, and to those who come to vist our community, and therefore for your sake and the sake of our community you should rethink about the way you dresswhile walking the streets of CH. I don’t think the letter should be in anyway offensive or putting down anyone; after all we don’t know if they are trying to improve on their level of… Read more »
the Rebbe accepted everyone – only with a loving approach will people change – it has to come from the inside first.
i glad to see that there is arousal on this issue
To # 3 I think you are confusing Crown Heights with Iran. The taliban also walk up and down streets making sure their women are dressed modestly in their burkas….Who on earth would go back home to change their clothes because YOU decided that it’s not tznius?? I have never heard such a ridiculous comment in my entire life. Why not just look into a person’s heart and soul instead of at their toes…the way people choose to dress is between them and G-d not YOU. YOU are not the JUDGE and YOU are not the JURY. You are a… Read more »
halacha is halacha! its not the rule 3 decides!
enough excuses saying, “I follow halach and not anything else”
halacha says that you should look modest and dress appropriately!!!!
so dont get so defesive when pple get upset at the tznius situation…
IF YOU WANT A THEOCRACY GO MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA OR AFGHANISTAN AND IF SOMEONE DEARS TO STOP A GIRL AND TELL HER OFF WILL BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTEND OF THE LAW UNDER NYC SEXUAL HARSSMENT PROTECTION LAWS
#3…miami is probably filled with more chassidish people than ch! dont diss us bec our school is better than any one you’ll find in ch! go back into ur hole!!
If you stop my wife and daughter, I will file a complaint in the 71st priciest for harassment
B”H, they dress modestly according to halacha and not in accordance with the rules you decide.
This is not the way to do things.
hotline? that’s so 80’s
we need to have a group of men and women to go up and down the streets and stop anyone that is not dressed tznius and make them go back home and get redressed. that is the only way to stop the girls from wearing mini mini skirts, and showing their toes and so on. and we need to stop the men from wearing jeans and t-shirts!! if they dont want to be lubavitch then they should live in CH, they should move to Miami!!
who do you think will call this line? the people who need to hear it def wont be calling it!!
I listened to Rabbi Ganczs derosho and while it may be hard to digest for some of us as we are not used to such a hard line approach there was nothing he said which was controversial.