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Demand This From Your School

Educational consultant Rabbi S. Binyomin Ginsberg offers 6 pointers parents should be asking at their children's schools. Full Story

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To #17
August 11, 2013 9:54 pm

For information about the new book and how to obtain a free copy for your school, you can visit Rabbi Ginsberg’s website: http://chinuchsupport.com/
Wishing you much hatzlachah!

To All
August 6, 2013 1:13 pm

Although we don’t all agree on how we will get there, we all agree that changes need to be made to our current educational system. Thank you to Rabbi G for starting the discussion.

Fan of #25
August 6, 2013 11:25 am

Right on! Bravo! You said it and you seem to be well-educated! I agree that teacher training is not the first thing on list of priorities, but it is surely high on the list. It will be easier to train teachers than have a total change of leadership (which I agree we need).

A fan
August 6, 2013 2:04 am

To #17
http://www.chinuchsupport.com

Thank you Rabbi Ginsberg for the beautifully written article. Your points are 100% correct! We need more of you out there… Keep up your amazing work for the Klal.

ZZZ zzz
August 6, 2013 1:22 am

1. Start with the principal’s training. Impotent management corrodes everything. (Easiest proof is the lack of any real curriculum in local schools. [Lack of space disallows explanation of the difference between real curriculum and what the schools purport to have]). 2. The “6 questions:” A) Training teachers is a noble effort, but society doesn’t pay teachers enough. Though the track to brain surgeon and children’s teacher should be similar, they are not, and the salaries certainly are not. B) There are no schools that require trained teachers. So “don’t send…” is a ridiculous notion. We’re now between the vestiges of… Read more »

To #1
August 5, 2013 7:29 pm

One course is close to enough training?

Which Mark???
August 5, 2013 5:26 pm

#21 – Who is off which mark? You are right – a teacher needs much more training. A doctor works with the physical and the teacher works with the spiritual as well. Are you implying that because no amount of training will prepare a teacher for the classroom, the teacher shouldn’t be trained? That would sound just like one would say “since I really can’t be a perfect chosid, I should just give it up completely”. You are also correct that one part of teaching is personality, but without training, you have a wasted personality. I would like to lead… Read more »

greater than a teacher
August 5, 2013 4:28 pm

There is ONE job that requires MORE SKILLS than a teacher, that of a parent! Great article, succinct and to the point. Thank you. A good start.

Way off the mark
August 5, 2013 4:18 pm

A doctor needs many years of training whereas no amount of training will prepare a teacher for the classroom- being able to teach is a personality trait, which as you so eloquently (and somewhat egoistically) pointed out is a trait that one is born with or without. (See klolei chinuch vehadracha)

I cannot discount the importance of some training before beginning to teach but I strongly believe that your focus should rather be on teaching schools to hire suitable teachers and ensure that all new and old teachers are mentored by other experienced mechanchim.

Citizen Berel
August 5, 2013 4:02 pm

Mr. 18 and Mr. 19 are very, very right because like education modern medicine is far worse than medicine in the past and if Ctitizen Berel would only have thought about what he wrote before writing and researched the facts he would also think that teachers teaching without training will possibly burn my child’s neshoma like a shabbos mevorchim cholent.

To Citizen Berel
August 5, 2013 3:16 pm

Medicine has also changed quite a bit over the years. The next time you are sick, are you going to visit a medieval quack or someone with current skills and technologies and training?

Reb Berel
August 5, 2013 1:44 pm

Based on your comments it seems like there is lots you don’t know about this subject. You seem to have much passion and you feel strongly about this issue. Yet, the Rebbe stressed the need for training on many occasions. I wonder if you are a parent and if you had or have any children in school. Yes, exposure to secular forms of education is a great problem. Yet, no where in the article did it say a word about going to college or the like. On the contrary, the programs mentioned in the article are especially made for our… Read more »

Excellent
August 5, 2013 1:26 pm

I heard of Rabbi Ginzburg’s classes and someone just told me that he published a book for teachers and someone paid for one free copy for every school. Does anyone know how I can contact him and get the book?

Great message in this article – if only every parent would read it and follow it.

to number 4
August 5, 2013 11:18 am

He’s not saying he has to be the one to train the teachers-just that they need to be trained,which is true!!

in the know
August 5, 2013 11:10 am

To poster #1. Nice plug for Ohr Menachem but hardly the truth.
Although every teacher and principal needs training, training alone does not make a teacher or principal. As the author alludes, it only helps someone who is born with it AND has the humility to change his preconceived notions and adhere to what he was taught.

What about a curriculum?
August 5, 2013 10:55 am

I fully agree with this writer. I also feel strongly that there is a very big lack of a curriculum in the Yeshiva system. A lot more can and should be done with regards to curriculum. It is simply not enough to give the teacher a gmara and tell him now go and teach this gmara to your class. There needs to be a system of advancement from level 1 to level 2 and from there to level 3 etc. You can’t just go on and have each and every level doing the same as the level before and as… Read more »

To answer #4
August 5, 2013 10:39 am

The Rav’s comments are certainly well stated by him, and not a parent who has a nut to crack. He is a professional and expert in his field. If his expertise is truly exceptional, then there is no personal interest involved. I do not think that he is getting paid more depending on the number of students in his classroom. He seems to want what is best for the students. If, in his school he provides that support for the parents and their children, then he is the best person to advocate for excellent training. It is the truth no… Read more »

Citizen Berel
August 5, 2013 9:22 am

This is great. Mr. Education consultant just disqualified 10 out of every 10 teachers for all teachers who ever taught Yidden before our modern golden age of Jewish chinuch starting in or around the year 2000. The ignorance of this position is surpassed only by its arrogance and is lockstep in line with modern education theory which results from and also drives the absolute worst education system in the history of mankind. Teachers can gain from mentor-ship, but, well, we already knew that, didn’t we. They also learn mainly from experience and still do regardless of any training what someone… Read more »

one time training is not enough
August 5, 2013 7:55 am

Teachers need to be constantly retrained and schools need to utilize more modern means of educating, such as computers, to help students learn. Also, parents should be allowed in classrooms to monitor teachers and students should be able to evaluate teachers and give feedback about their courses and curriculum.

jew
August 5, 2013 7:52 am

are you doing one for men???? ,the girls go to sem and alot of them take teachers training, but the men ???? you are doing great work rabbi.

The difficulty in commenting on this is...
August 5, 2013 7:48 am

…That it was so well written and so comprehensive, there is nothing to say but “Yasher koach”. You are 100% correct.

The only problem the schools can have with this is that they could lose their ineffective teachers who have lifetime postions based on what their Zaide did in Russia or whose father is the principal or the Shliach.

TO #3
August 5, 2013 7:25 am

See comment #1 mabey it’s tome to change your son’s school..

if only....
August 5, 2013 7:23 am

To #3, yes, you are correct. I’ve seen this happen many times. At our school, the principal is usually so desperate for teachers, he takes anyone with a degree and says we should be happy they are educated. (Why would someone with an advanced degree in Economics be a good 4th Grade English teacher? Especially since she has had NO classroom experience.) Teaching positions are given to shluchim in the community who have nothing else to do. It’s true that some teachers are naturally good. But for those who aren’t, help them help themselves. Fine, you are desperate and you… Read more »

true but with more quextions
August 5, 2013 6:59 am

what are they trained in?

who trained them?

how long were they trained for?

did anyone do a background check on them?

does listening to a few seminars make them a great teacher?

By Example
August 5, 2013 6:41 am

I was one of those lucky ones! I had no interest in teaching, but I heard that Rabbi Ginsberg’s classes were entertaining and since my parents were teachers, I decided why not! I thought that OT, PT and other such occupations were more advanced, paid better and required greater knowledge. How wrong I was. After learning how to teach PROPERLY I began to understand why we have so many kids off the derech, why parents don’t respect teachers, how great the job can be (if done right) and how lucky I was to take this path. I haven’t done any… Read more »

Nicely written
August 5, 2013 12:34 am

There needs to be a disclaimer on top of this article stating the interests of this writer to advance his/hers job as teaching teachers. This would carry more weight if it was written by a disinterested party.

nepotism
August 5, 2013 12:26 am

The Rebbeim/ Morahs in our school don’t need to be trained. They get hired by their father/ father-in-law/ uncle and have a job for eternity, no matter how incapable of managing a classroom. It doesn’t matter how much Torah knowledge you have if you can’t manage a classroom and if you don’t LOVE the kids! We have teachers in our school who have ruined kids’ lives and no matter how ineffective or damaging they are, no matter how much parents complain, they are here to stay because they are related. PATHETIC!

Real deal.
August 5, 2013 12:24 am

Rabbi G !! you are great keep up the great work ! 🙂

Go to Ohr Menachem
August 5, 2013 12:12 am

B”H Rabbi Yuzewitz the principle of Ohr Menachem school has a course that ALL his teachers MUST take before they step foot into a class to teach.

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