By Sandy Eller – VIN News
A Connecticut Rebbe received the surprise of his life when he discovered a shopping bag full of cash in a desk that he bought on Craigslist.
New Haven resident Rabbi Noach Muroff had been searching the online classified listings for a desk for his office, finally finding one that met his needs several days before Rosh Hashana. Folding down the rear seats in his minivan, R’ Muroff went to pick up the desk, which he purchased from its original owner for $150.
“It fit perfectly into my van but when we got home, it was about a quarter of an inch too big to fit into my office,” Rabbi Muroff told VIN News. “It was crazy that it didn’t fit by such a small amount. We tried taking the hinges off the door, but it didn’t work.”
Instead, R’ Muroff unscrewed the top of the desk, and after doing so, noticed a white plastic shopping bag wedged in behind one of the desk’s side filing cabinets.
“We took out the bag and we could see that there was money inside,” said R’ Muroff.
In fact, the bag was stuffed with neatly bundled stacks of one hundred dollar bills.
“We brought it to the table and counted it out and there was $98,000,” said R’ Muroff. “It was me, my wife and a friend who was here and we looked at it each other and said, ‘this can’t be real. This only happens in the movies.’”
There was never a question about what to do with the money.
“My wife and I both knew immediately that we would return it,” explained R’ Muroff. “When I was picking up the desk, the lady, who wasn’t Jewish, told me that she had bought the desk at Staples and put it together herself. We knew the money was hers and she was speechless when we called her to tell her we had found it.”
According to R’ Muroff, the original owner of the desk, a middle aged woman identified only as Patty, knew that she had hidden her nest egg in the desk but was unable to locate it when it fell behind the filing cabinet. Assuming the money had to be somewhere else in her house, the woman sold the desk, never once suspecting that it still contained her life’s savings.
“If we hadn’t had to take the desk apart we never would have found it,” observed R’ Muroff.
R’ Muroff, a ninth grade Rebbe at the Yeshiva of New Haven, returned to the woman’s house the next day with his wife and four small children.
“We took the kids along because we thought it was a good opportunity to teach them about emes,” said R’ Muroff.
R’ Muroff consulted with his own Rebbe on what to do should a reward be proffered and while he was uncomfortable accepting anything in return for doing a mitzvah, he did so at the insistence of the desk’s original owner who also refunded the purchase price of the desk.
“Originally, she thought I only had two kids because that was how many car seats she had seen in my van the day before. When she saw that I had four children, she went back into the house and added more money to the gift bag she gave me.”
R’ Muroff admits that he struggled with the decision of whether or not to go public with his story for several weeks, finally agreeing to do so after discussing the matter with R’ Shmuel Kaminetzky at the Torah U’Mesorah convention in Boston several weeks ago.
“He told me that by coming forward it would be an opportunity to make a Kiddush Hashem and it was the right way to go.”
A heartfelt note from the desk’s owner thanked R’ Muroff for his honesty and integrity and praised him for his actions.
“I do not think there are too many people in this world who would have done what you did by calling me. I do like to believe that there are still good people left in this crazy world we live in. You certainly are one of them.”
with all the terrible stories of fraud, molestation, abuse, law breaking etc. with frum yidden in the news, what a refreshing change!
Kol Hakavod to Rabbi Muroff – you made a HUGE Kiddush Hashem! I also agree with #77 – the comments on COL are amazing! You are taking a piece of praise and twisting it into rebuke?
The comments on COLLive never fail to amaze me. Commentators will always find a way to criticize even the most fantastic of things. I’m sure the negative Nancys could even be critical of motherhood and apple pie.
Rabbi Muroff, I will not weigh in on whether what you did was halachically correct or not, but a kiddush Hashem you definitely made. May the Almighty bless you and your family with success, health, wealth, and much nachas. You’ve passed this test. Go from strength to strength.
Dovid
A rabbi was asked what would he do if he found a million dollars. He said if it belonged to a poor old lady he would return it.
A man of integrity. He did it not because the media would be after him
lol
Did you say thinking? Well, I don’t know what you were thinking when you wrote that, but it sure was a mistake to publish it!
Shkoyach great kid dish hashem
http://www.newsy.com/videos/man-finds-98k-in-desk-bought-off-craigslist/#ooid=l4M2k1aDpdNHYbmlh9x_8Zu07QYC5LgB
its always best to check the facts b4 u go and say something. that story happened to b the money of yiddin that they stole along the way. and there are many mire details to that story but the point i wanted to bring out is out
There is the concept of birurim, where we have a chelek she-beoylam that is ours to “sanctify”. How to sanctify? In this case there may be the factor of kiddush Hashem. But that didn’t help even one of 6 million when push came to shove in the Holocaust. In fact it is not entirely clear whether it is possible for kiddush Hashem far di goyim. (R.Shimon ben Shatach was in a totally different environment, fighting a battle against the Reformers, who controlled the Sanhedrin at that time. This was the history of the buildup to the ness of Chanuka. He… Read more »
amazing
Heard about it today on a headline news on a Los angeles radio station, mentioning it was a rabbi and praising him for it, and people still question if it was a good idea?
מעורר השראה! קידוש השם גדול!
What Rabbi Muroff did is unquestionably a Kiddush HaShem. Kol HaKavod to him and his Mishpacha. The comments (as in 8, 52, etc…) above are for now, academic. But if it’s still unsettling, maybe we should try a little harder to understand what it means when we ask HaShem every day; V’Lo Lidei Nisayon.
How many people would of gave back the money especially when you have 4 kids, this guy is amazing, and some of you are thinking if it was the right thing to do or not I am sure it was not easy, what a guy
Question for every Jew: Is my purpose in life to get rich or is it to spread recognition of the One G-d and His Goodness to the world?
there this famous story of the russian army who came to a town and every house had host a group of soldier. this chossid (he was a melamed) hosted a group of soldier who had the salary for all the soldiers. the group left and forgot all the money in this melamed’s house. he went to the alter rebbe for advise. the rebbe told him to keep teaching in the cheider and make as nothing happen. a few months later the alter rebbe told him to open a small buisnes in the poor area of the city, and then to… Read more »
And non-Jews will do the same?
that is an amazing story… makes me proud knowing there such kind of people that know whats right and does it even though there temptation tell them otherwise
there is a shaila of bal tashchit
Restored!
Why are people trying to pasken? That’s why we have Rabbonim.
I totally agree with number 8!!
The guys a fool for even teling her how much there was inside.. if it really was her savings than she should know…if i were returning it i would have tried to get it out of her first..
can you prove that she was meyaesh – if you had $98k savings, would you ever give up finding it? I dont think I would…
I hate to say it but i agree with #8-52 wether i would do tat or feel that its right or not halacha is halacha and no matter how you feel about it isn’t going to change
Please troll on another website.
Wow what a great sensation, now back to facts. 1) Hashem gave you a present, it’s yours, keep it and enjoy it. 2) We are not sure it was her money at first place. 3) Even if it was hers, probably she got it not kosher, ורגליים לדבר, she hide it. 4) Even if its takeh hers in a Kosher way, she was Meya’esh. 5) First u r Mechuyov to give money-charity to a Yid 6) You are prohibited to give to a goy. 7) You are prohibited to give a present to a goy לא תחנם 8) Rabbi shimon… Read more »
Dear Rabbi & Rebbitzin Noach Muroff, Difficult as it was to do, you did a wonderful thing(?). Years ago a ‘naucri’ at a Kingston Ave. cash ATM center (Btwn. Lincoln and S. Johns, mistakenly dolled out $20 to me instead of $10. They were new bills and stuck together. Rabbi K. Marlow, A”H, told be it was a ‘Kiddush HaShem’ and ‘Chassidisha’ thing to return it, which I did. Once, while driving late at night on the old West Side (Ele vated) Highway in Manhattan (About 1970), and not observant, I saw a woman’s handbag lying on the highway. It… Read more »
She may have been meyayish but how do think he would know that? He probably thought that she forgot about the money in the desk, and when she would remember she would ask him, and imagine what a chilul hashem it would be had he kept it.
NEW HAVEN!
We have no make fund to raise 98. K for the family to encourage kiddush Hashem
1) You have no idea why hashem did this. Neither do I. But possibly Hashem did this in order to give Reb Noach and his wife a chance to do a big kiddush hashem. Possibly Hashem knew that they would stand strong at the nisayon. And מגלגלים זכות ע”י זכאי . Furthermore, if Hashem wants to give them $98,000, he has his ways to do so without any ספקות . So next time any one of us have this type of nisayon, we should believe in full faith that Hashem has his ways of giving us brochos without putting us… Read more »
Rabbi Muroff made a kiddush Hashem, which is why this was in the news. you need to strengthen your emuna. Hashem gave Rabbi Muroff the opportunity to make a kiddush Hashem. Certainly the gates of Shomoyim are open for his prayers and he will be rewarded by Hashem even more. Strengthen your emunah.
Although I DISagree with number 8, and really respect this guy for doing what he did, I can’t imagine that I would have done the same.
…learn todays mitzva in RaMbaM which says that if you want to sell a field, you must offer it to the next door neighbour first. The reason given is that we should be a mentch and offer to those who are most likely to want it most. Kal Vechomer in this situation… where it actually belonged to her!!!
So Beautiful how honest you are! Hashem should bentch you with all the brochos!
If you “pasken” that he should have kept it, you are “paskenening” on yourself, that next time you lose something and give up on it, the other person should keep it for themselves….is that what you would want? careful what you say!
and another WOW!!!!!!
Instead of everyone arguing about off he should have kept it or not, why don’t we all get off of our behinds and go try and bring moshiach,
How rude are you! Non Jewish people work just as hard for their money as you do ,just because you sit around supposedly learning torah all day with money shoved down your throat, the only person you are kidding with all this torah “knowledge” is yourself you lowlife.
What the heck did you mean by saying that?
The fact he did not have to return the money only makes what he did more exemplary ; besides, the reward he received was probably enough of present so that everyone ended up happy.
BS”D I think he should have cut each bill in half and given her 1/2 of each bill and he retain 1/2 of each bill
AT THE END OF THE DAY IM SURE IT WASN’T EASY TO DECIDE TO RETURN THE CASH. UNTIL YOUR IN HIS SHOES YOU WONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT. AND JUST REMEMBER IT WAS HIM THE FOUND 98K SO WHEN YOU FIND IT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW QUICKLY YOU RETURN IT!!!!!!!!!
All i can say is i know the family well and the comments
On this page show how low we have fallen.
The comments should say nothing more than : wow what a
Kiddush hashem .
Ideas what to do with the money?
What u think he should have done according to halacha?
If i lost 98,000 i would want someone to return it and so would u and he made a huge Kiddush hashem. Point final.
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Goyim are human beings.
Jews are human beings.
When a Goy treats another Jew rightly, they are considered a Righteous one since they are not obligated to be nice.
A Jew, however, is OBLIGATED to treat everyone right- be it a Jew or a goy.
By giving the money, he acted as he should have.
He did the right thing.
he is a ottawa boy
The guy did something amazing and there’s no need to fight over what he should’ve done! What’s done is done, and everyone has their own opinion on it!
Its quite a nysaion. Sure it’s not easy to depart from such a huge amount of cash! For sure the young man has plenty of needs for his four children. However how can he and his family enjoy the monies when he knew where it came from. Especially when he was told that the woman put the desk toghether by herself when she purchased it from staples. Good thing he gave back the money. He would have never enjoyed anything he would have done with it. Honestly I hope this should never happen to me. It’s very, very tempting. I… Read more »
Are you people trying to show you know how to learn a little bit???? Making a kiddush Hashem which in the long term could eventually save the life or lives of Jews is a lot more far reaching and a greater benefit aside from the Mitzvah to more Jews you’ll ever know about. That woman will not only always remember that a Jew saved her from a huge loss but will NO DOUBT tell her friends what good people Jews are!!!! I had a personal experience like that where I did a favor for a none Jewish African American neighbor… Read more »
It’s says in machanaim books, printed in 3 languages! !!
Where does it say that Yosef knew that the jewel belonged to the miser?
C’mon guys, this guy did something wonderful and u all have to turn it into a major argument on whether he was right or wrong. HELLO?! Just say “wow” or “disagree”. If you had been him how would U feel about reading all this( and in only 23 comments!)
Only on col……..
In Yosef Mokir Shabbos, the goy was dead by the time he got the diamond, and lav davka did he know where it came from.
#8 how would u like it if it was the other way around & a non jew found it from a jew & said “its a gift from g-d, lets buid a church” but no, they decide to return it… would u tell them theyr crazy for doing the right thing???
i suggest thinking twice b4 posting ur initial thoughts online…. u dont turn out looking the brightest,….
i cant beleive u totally against torah
I think that this is a way that Hashem send you money
Sometimes comes disguised in a incredible profitable transaction, here it came in a revealed way,directly from Hashem
The lady did not give up her life savings, she just did not think iy was inside the work desk. so she did not have any yeiush. and also even if she wad meyesh, she did give up, the gemara concludes that a chassid goes lifnim meshurad hadin, ahead and better then what the jewish halacha states.
#8 you have a screw loose. The man made a huge Kiddush hashem and you are criticizing him. Obviously you were not raised with the Jewish value of honesty. I and most normal people think the Kiddush Hashem he made is worth more than a million dollars!
There’s the story of the Tzadik who gave back the jewel he found on the donkey… It was a VERY big Kiddush Hashem!
If it is true that al pi halacha he could keep it, then returning it is a kiddush hashem, but maybe a greater kiddush shem shamayim could have been made by usung the money to help a yeshiva get out of debt and pay up salaries owed to rebbeim? Maybe a greater kiddush hashem could have been made if the money would fund a new chabad house – and all the thousands of kiddush hashem that would make ove time? You see, once the money need not be returned, the question is, what is the BEST use for this money???… Read more »
You have gone out on a tantrum, but the Alter Rebbe says that you are wrong! The Alter Rebbe Paskens that if by giving back an Aveidoh to a Goy you will cause a Kiddush Hashem then “Tovoi Olov Brocho”!!! I myself had the same opportunity / Nissoyoin when I was a Bochur in O.T. on Troy in the early 70’s when I came back from spending Pesach with my parents from a different country, and I found at JFK a wallet in a phonebooth that was laden with cash and credit cards and I asked at that time a… Read more »
WHY DID SHE HAVE 98 GRAND IN A DESK TO BEGIN WITH????????????
I agree with you, you’re a 100 % right,I even think that after the teacher told her about it, she said takeh- indeed i put it there and forgot, but in reality its not hers at all, (her story doesn’t make sense, everyone knows -or makes sure to know – all the time where they keep their hard saved money)
Can they do that to us? I think it’s best to advise a non-Jew to do the same.
Your so frum yet have no idea what Judaism is
Yosef mokir shabbos didn’t return the diamond from the fish even though its known it came from a rich miser…
Criticizing him for doing the right thing?! Sheesh! Hashem created goyim too, don’t talk abt them like they’re dirt!
R’ Shimon bought a donkey, and found a jewel tied to its neck. He returned the jewel to the gentile owner and made a kiddush Hashem.
You should have kept the money for yourself, the fact that Hashem gave it to YOU means that YOU should have it & use it, In fact you were not allowed to give it away to a goy , bc 1) it’s a Goy- first u must give it to a yid. 2) she was Meya’esh 3) you are prohibited to give presents to a goy ‘לא תחנם’, if you would have used the money for Tzedokoh then you’d have had lots of real Mitzvos (if u would tell Rav Shmuel Kaminetzki, that you wanted to give it for tzedaka,… Read more »
Maybe according to halacha he may have been allowed to keep it. Yet the fact that he returned it shows even more the kiddush hashem!
incredible!!!!!!!!! wow!!
It is amazing in every aspect you look at it. When I started to read the story, I was hoping it would be returned. I commend the rabbi for doing it and make such a kidush Hashem!
and here i thought humanity was taakeh crazy……bh for ppl like u
p.s. didnt any rov give a heter as gneivas akum (sheloi mdaas habalim=such as in this case) is mutor lchol hadeiois ?
especially when the shaaleh of yiush is long removed and even more so since yiush bnochri iz bichlaal a shaaleh in itself???
eli.a
What a Kiddush Hashem!
We need to show the world, and ourselves that there are actually ‘real’ people in the world, who DO follow Torah fully! It’s not just for Tzadikim to do!!
Thank you for sharing!
Brought tears to my eyes
from ottawa