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fight back?
January 18, 2013 4:25 am
We teach our children as youngsters not to hit back not to fight back ..to tell someone…we are trained that way. Where I teach in the “hood” my students are taught from an early age that if someone messes with you ..beat their ——. Different cultures..which one is right/ My heart goes out to those men …but we don’t fight back we don’t shoot and kill people…as little kids we teach don’t hit…but look what happens…so sad and no answers.
There are 2 issues here. One, harrassment of Jews publicly in the streets, for no reason other than they are walking by, only because they are Jews. If it were whites against blacks or other minorities it would have 10 million views by now and make the news. For this shocking scene alone we should all be horrified as it could happen to any of us. Two, comparing it to what the nazis YM”SH did to our people, by arguing over this point, we forget the main issue that jews are NOT SAFE in the streets of Israel, where the… Read more »
Clarity that is seemingly lacking in many peoples narrow minded anylization of topics...Eli Federman thank you for having the clarity and understanding of how to appropriately define world events!!!!
If the Israelis did the same to the Arabs, it would be put in the news all over the world, My answer is FIGHT BACK We need more Aliyah to Israel.
wow
January 14, 2013 11:20 pm
we should take all these arabs yimach shemam vezichram and send them all to live on mars or mercody
to nomber #13
January 14, 2013 8:17 pm
that is true
h
January 14, 2013 7:32 pm
disgusting!! that is disgusting!!
To all those who say fight back...
January 14, 2013 5:43 pm
Please !! they would get killed. the best they could do was try to get away safely. To those who say dont compare this to nazism, its the same hatred of jews, and the arabs have killed our people repeatedly, only because they are Jews so theres no difference, to #27, who says like an idiot its not the same as in Israel we have the jewish army well, where were they !!??? The real problem is that we have given these thugs, these brutes, these vicious arabs plenty of reason to laugh as they brutally attack our Holy Jews,… Read more »
just wondering
January 14, 2013 4:45 pm
i feel sorry for the boys who are being attacked but i wonder if they are related to the “naturei karta” who love the arabs and the iranians
To #46
January 14, 2013 4:43 pm
are you crazy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is very stupid of you to say . I know this is bad but dont you think what your saying is a little rash !!!!!!!!!! Lesson in life think b4 u say something
to everyone that says they should fight back
January 14, 2013 11:40 am
2 against what? 15? isn’t a fair fight you can’t fight back like that instead us jews should stay together and fight for each other “kul yisroel araivim zeh luzeh”
"as one"
January 14, 2013 10:05 am
The message the person (s) was trying to make (I feel) is that people are always trying to take advantage of the Jews. Who did these punks try to intimidate? Two chasidim. THey didnt pick on someone whom they thought would fight back. The problem is people are afraid of the Jews, they want to rid us of the world. Why? Because the feel threatened. In the end Hashem will sort it all out!!! Always be proud of being a jew and always believe. when you stop believing then they win… Whether you are reliogous or not. Be as one,… Read more »
The travesty here is the video itself - and the horrible soundtrack
January 13, 2013 10:14 pm
One cannot and should absolutely never use the holocaust as some cheap tearjerker. If anything, “never again” should be directed at Jewish people being the victim! We should be taught to defend ourselves and not play the victim. This is aside from the fact that there are Jewish hooligans as well and I need not say the types of trouble they get in to. Or how about the type of trouble these same Chaeidim in Israel inflict on others within their own sect and religion. I am sure for every video like this, there are tens more of stones being… Read more »
The Solution
January 13, 2013 10:11 pm
is a gun…….
We need to strenghthen our Jewish Identity
January 13, 2013 10:00 pm
So we don’t need reminders from outsiders…Learn more Torah. Do more mitzvos. Love your fellow Jews. Let’s do all we can to bring Moshiach!!
Ask your local mashpia for further information.
L'Alter L'Tshuva L'Alter L'Geulah
January 13, 2013 9:57 pm
if this happened to me...
January 13, 2013 8:22 pm
First shotgun slug would be shot upwards (most of the scoundrels would scamper away instantly) if anyone stayed… well, then I would determine if
1) my life is in danger
2) my family members life is in danger
3) my property is in danger… And I would make the decision is it BANG BANG!! or is he harmless…..
At least for the time being until obamba takes away our 2nd amendment rights
good morning america
January 13, 2013 8:19 pm
this is what jews in israel have been dealing with for years and to say dont compare to the holocaust, well we all wish it was just a matter of snowballs. I’mso glad something like this hasfinally been videoed
we must take this very, very seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 13, 2013 7:59 pm
…this is axactly how it all started back then … we must wake up!!!!!! and fight back!!!!!
agree with #21
January 13, 2013 7:29 pm
Most people’s knowledge of the Holocaust is concentration camps and Jewish towns being killed and wiped out…but as #21 said…a few years before the onset of the Nazi’s killing Yidden ..there were antisemitic incidents all across Europe that were happening on a daily basis that were ignored and slowly became acceptable to the masses of people and actually created negative feelings towards the Jews..so that when Hitler ym’s finally decided that the destruction of the Jews was needed everyone went along until it was too late. We need to be wary of the small incidents of Anti-semitism, bec. if we… Read more »
please think!
January 13, 2013 7:22 pm
Collive please be more sensitive of what you are willing to post,no one is saying this isn’t horrible and dispicable,BUT comparing this to the holocaust is appalling!!!
wo!!!
January 13, 2013 6:58 pm
they got nothing to make fun of jews, the way they look: “look at what they were” what the jews do: “they throw snow balls at innocent people” there just jealous
It did not begin in Auschwitz
January 13, 2013 6:56 pm
To reiterate what a few others have said: The Holocaust did not begin with crematoria in Auschwitz. It ended there. It started with snowballs, mud-slinging, window-smashing, ridiculing. And it happened to a generation of Jewish people who refused to compare a little Nazi snowball to a Roman siege.
If these comments are read by 1 mother, child, parent, rov who can explain the reality of life to their neighbors and friends, we stand a chance.
agree with 21
January 13, 2013 6:49 pm
This is precisely how nazi germany started. as i have relatives that went through it, and they tell me , that this precise bullying started way before the actual holocaust did. they were bullied on the streets, in their schools… and then all went downhill from there over the years
To # 29
January 13, 2013 6:39 pm
Totally agree with you. I just surprise in Yerushalaim cars are passing through and nobody stop this animals and helping the fellow Jew. I’m sad for Jew who didn’t help. For arabs I dont have much sadness, they are animals. No, not animal animal, they are human animals
omg
January 13, 2013 6:22 pm
we need moshiach already this is happening to often these poepple are not normal they should be ashamed the arrabs!!!!!!
To 22
January 13, 2013 6:21 pm
“jews should use their brains”?????
What are you saying please think before writing such a thing on a JEWISH website.
And of course this is NOT nazism noone said it is its just as groose as nazism.
And c’mon look at all those things arabs do to jews its not such a CRAZY idea to compare this to nazism its only an example because i dont think a video clip is enough to show all the things arabs do to us jews
to 31 to 23 to 17
January 13, 2013 6:16 pm
i 100% agree
To #23
January 13, 2013 6:02 pm
Totally agree with you!
Tears.....
January 13, 2013 6:02 pm
Those are animals… Oh i forgot animals do have a small brain.. Thats a compliment for those arabs.
We need moshiach right now!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARAB ANIMALS
January 13, 2013 5:50 pm
NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU GIVE TO THESE ANIMALS THEY WILL NOT BE HAPPY. THEY WILL ACT LIKE BULLIES AND WHEN COUGHT THEY WILL ACT LIKE VICTIM THIS IS THE ARAB WAY. MY SOLUTION SEND THEM TO THE ARAB COUNTRIES WHERE THEY BELONG AND LET THEM KILL EACH OTHER SINCE THEY CANT LIVE IN PEACE ANY WAY.
Imagine a jew did this to the arabs-it will be everywhere!
January 13, 2013 5:49 pm
I wonder what netura karta will say about this?
u gotta be kidding
January 13, 2013 5:40 pm
sorry the Comparison is stupid and idiotic.
The Jews in poland had nowhere to go, no way of defending themselves, and were utterly helpless.
Theyre beards were cut off, they were beaten and much more
The Jew in jeruselam had some snow thrown at him, and his hat was taken off for 30 seconds, in a jewish state, where a jewish police and army defend him.
a Comparison to the holocaust means a total lack of understanding what the holocaust is about.
Its a bad thing, but u lose the argument when u call it ‘holocaust’
Truly distgusting!!
January 13, 2013 5:37 pm
So mean!!
This is just pure Anti Semitism. But I still do believe that it is making the Holocaust look like a joke. The holocaust didn’t happen this way at all. But that is just so mean!! I mean Gosh, do those Arabs really have to throw snowballs? No. They just do it cause they HATE Jews. Ditgusting what they did. Shame on them!
point to ponder
January 13, 2013 5:22 pm
How do we treat one another…spouses, friends, co-workers, family.
Perhaps it is time we woke up to the cruelty in our own daled amos
post this on face book
January 13, 2013 5:13 pm
lots of normal people don’t believe this could happen and they think Arabs would not do that please post this so every one can see that this is happening now.
To #17
January 13, 2013 4:39 pm
thats a very rude thing to say!!!!!!! it is simaler in a way…. okay? don’t ever say shame on u moshe ever again!
No comparison
January 13, 2013 4:33 pm
You cannot compare every anti-Jewish act to Nazism. This is NOT nazism. Jews should use their brains.
What are you thinking?
January 13, 2013 4:29 pm
Do you believe that what happened through the Nazis y’s started with bullets and death camps? No, it started with exactly this type of behavior. The dehuminization, public humiliation, and targeting of Yidden. This is sadly a PERFECT comparison. Don’t take it lightly. If you care about the victims of Nazi Germany, take this seriously.
Rajun Cajun
January 13, 2013 4:26 pm
They should have hit back or thrown snowballs back. These arabs know they could do it and get away. That is the problem. Every Jew nearby should have gathered snowballs and pelted these arabs.
yet Jews like to act weak.
When Jews act strong the enemies of Israel melt away.
Stop cowering and stand strong. Every Jew a 22!
we need moshiach
January 13, 2013 4:23 pm
For all those people that dislike the comparison, the point Ida’s boy that the snowballs are just as bad as the holocaust bullets.. The point is that the hate still exists, and that hatred is what we need too be aware of…
We need to start asking for moishiach, and letter prove Hashem that he doesn’t need to send us videos like this for us to ask for moshiach
muito triste o filme
January 13, 2013 4:08 pm
os aravim eles tem falata de eucao eles sao uns idiotas
QUE POSSAMOS TRAZER MASHICH JA AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chosid
January 13, 2013 3:51 pm
Did you really just compare genocide to a few snowballs? These bochurim acted like the victims they are taught to. Their unwillingness to respond is a discussion of its own. But the comparison is in very poor taste. Shame on you, Moshe.
OY VEY1!! BEYOND TEERRIBLE!!|
January 13, 2013 3:15 pm
odesnt even look real!! nebach … that car should off run them over!! who was videoing? if it was an arab how did they get it off him and if he was a jew y didntt he tyr to get help?11 puzzled!!
Crunch
January 13, 2013 2:48 pm
To compare some mischievous youths throwing snowballs to the Nazis who shot bullets (and worse!) is a travesty and a disrespect to the victims of the Holocaust.
so rude
January 13, 2013 2:41 pm
who do they think they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so sad
January 13, 2013 2:35 pm
so sad think about the horror that those boys had then!!!!!!!!!
Bias
January 13, 2013 2:34 pm
This will never make it to the news
mean
January 13, 2013 2:34 pm
soooooooooo mean
An insult
January 13, 2013 2:27 pm
This is insulting to all the victims of the real holocaust. Although what these kids did is horrible there is really no comparison.
Like or dislike?
January 13, 2013 2:20 pm
Am I supposed to like or dislike the video on YouTube?
so sad!
January 13, 2013 2:17 pm
SHOCKING :((
we will remain strong!
January 13, 2013 2:14 pm
no matter what they do we willl always remain strong we are a burning fire that never goes out!!!!!!!!!
moshiach now ad mosai!
why????
January 13, 2013 2:12 pm
This is crazzzzzzzzzy !!! its so sad. come on someine do something already! ad mosai! the isreal goverment should do something american goverment should fo something!!!!!!!!!!!! moshiach now!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT AGAIN!!!!
January 13, 2013 2:09 pm
Hashem please bring the Geula speedily bimhairah viyomainu mamesh!
YM
January 13, 2013 2:07 pm
yimach shimom!
im crying
January 13, 2013 2:01 pm
It makes me wonder
January 13, 2013 2:01 pm
Some say that the State of Israel is the solution for the Nazis.
”Who know? maybe one day america will not be so nice to the Jews…” What about the current daily hostilities (albeit not extreme)?
We teach our children as youngsters not to hit back not to fight back ..to tell someone…we are trained that way. Where I teach in the “hood” my students are taught from an early age that if someone messes with you ..beat their ——. Different cultures..which one is right/ My heart goes out to those men …but we don’t fight back we don’t shoot and kill people…as little kids we teach don’t hit…but look what happens…so sad and no answers.
http://www.jewishpress.com/blogs/guest-blog/chareidim-wake-up-and-toughen-up/2013/01/15/
There are 2 issues here. One, harrassment of Jews publicly in the streets, for no reason other than they are walking by, only because they are Jews. If it were whites against blacks or other minorities it would have 10 million views by now and make the news. For this shocking scene alone we should all be horrified as it could happen to any of us. Two, comparing it to what the nazis YM”SH did to our people, by arguing over this point, we forget the main issue that jews are NOT SAFE in the streets of Israel, where the… Read more »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eliyahu-federman/inappropriate-use-of-holocaust-imagery-in-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict_b_2476269.html
If the Israelis did the same to the Arabs, it would be put in the news all over the world, My answer is FIGHT BACK We need more Aliyah to Israel.
we should take all these arabs yimach shemam vezichram and send them all to live on mars or mercody
that is true
disgusting!! that is disgusting!!
Please !! they would get killed. the best they could do was try to get away safely. To those who say dont compare this to nazism, its the same hatred of jews, and the arabs have killed our people repeatedly, only because they are Jews so theres no difference, to #27, who says like an idiot its not the same as in Israel we have the jewish army well, where were they !!??? The real problem is that we have given these thugs, these brutes, these vicious arabs plenty of reason to laugh as they brutally attack our Holy Jews,… Read more »
i feel sorry for the boys who are being attacked but i wonder if they are related to the “naturei karta” who love the arabs and the iranians
are you crazy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is very stupid of you to say . I know this is bad but dont you think what your saying is a little rash !!!!!!!!!! Lesson in life think b4 u say something
2 against what? 15? isn’t a fair fight you can’t fight back like that instead us jews should stay together and fight for each other “kul yisroel araivim zeh luzeh”
The message the person (s) was trying to make (I feel) is that people are always trying to take advantage of the Jews. Who did these punks try to intimidate? Two chasidim. THey didnt pick on someone whom they thought would fight back. The problem is people are afraid of the Jews, they want to rid us of the world. Why? Because the feel threatened. In the end Hashem will sort it all out!!! Always be proud of being a jew and always believe. when you stop believing then they win… Whether you are reliogous or not. Be as one,… Read more »
One cannot and should absolutely never use the holocaust as some cheap tearjerker. If anything, “never again” should be directed at Jewish people being the victim! We should be taught to defend ourselves and not play the victim. This is aside from the fact that there are Jewish hooligans as well and I need not say the types of trouble they get in to. Or how about the type of trouble these same Chaeidim in Israel inflict on others within their own sect and religion. I am sure for every video like this, there are tens more of stones being… Read more »
is a gun…….
So we don’t need reminders from outsiders…Learn more Torah. Do more mitzvos. Love your fellow Jews. Let’s do all we can to bring Moshiach!!
Ask your local mashpia for further information.
First shotgun slug would be shot upwards (most of the scoundrels would scamper away instantly) if anyone stayed… well, then I would determine if
1) my life is in danger
2) my family members life is in danger
3) my property is in danger… And I would make the decision is it BANG BANG!! or is he harmless…..
At least for the time being until obamba takes away our 2nd amendment rights
this is what jews in israel have been dealing with for years and to say dont compare to the holocaust, well we all wish it was just a matter of snowballs. I’mso glad something like this hasfinally been videoed
…this is axactly how it all started back then … we must wake up!!!!!! and fight back!!!!!
Most people’s knowledge of the Holocaust is concentration camps and Jewish towns being killed and wiped out…but as #21 said…a few years before the onset of the Nazi’s killing Yidden ..there were antisemitic incidents all across Europe that were happening on a daily basis that were ignored and slowly became acceptable to the masses of people and actually created negative feelings towards the Jews..so that when Hitler ym’s finally decided that the destruction of the Jews was needed everyone went along until it was too late. We need to be wary of the small incidents of Anti-semitism, bec. if we… Read more »
Collive please be more sensitive of what you are willing to post,no one is saying this isn’t horrible and dispicable,BUT comparing this to the holocaust is appalling!!!
they got nothing to make fun of jews, the way they look: “look at what they were” what the jews do: “they throw snow balls at innocent people” there just jealous
To reiterate what a few others have said: The Holocaust did not begin with crematoria in Auschwitz. It ended there. It started with snowballs, mud-slinging, window-smashing, ridiculing. And it happened to a generation of Jewish people who refused to compare a little Nazi snowball to a Roman siege.
If these comments are read by 1 mother, child, parent, rov who can explain the reality of life to their neighbors and friends, we stand a chance.
This is precisely how nazi germany started. as i have relatives that went through it, and they tell me , that this precise bullying started way before the actual holocaust did. they were bullied on the streets, in their schools… and then all went downhill from there over the years
Totally agree with you. I just surprise in Yerushalaim cars are passing through and nobody stop this animals and helping the fellow Jew. I’m sad for Jew who didn’t help. For arabs I dont have much sadness, they are animals. No, not animal animal, they are human animals
we need moshiach already this is happening to often these poepple are not normal they should be ashamed the arrabs!!!!!!
“jews should use their brains”?????
What are you saying please think before writing such a thing on a JEWISH website.
And of course this is NOT nazism noone said it is its just as groose as nazism.
And c’mon look at all those things arabs do to jews its not such a CRAZY idea to compare this to nazism its only an example because i dont think a video clip is enough to show all the things arabs do to us jews
i 100% agree
Totally agree with you!
Those are animals… Oh i forgot animals do have a small brain.. Thats a compliment for those arabs.
We need moshiach right now!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU GIVE TO THESE ANIMALS THEY WILL NOT BE HAPPY. THEY WILL ACT LIKE BULLIES AND WHEN COUGHT THEY WILL ACT LIKE VICTIM THIS IS THE ARAB WAY. MY SOLUTION SEND THEM TO THE ARAB COUNTRIES WHERE THEY BELONG AND LET THEM KILL EACH OTHER SINCE THEY CANT LIVE IN PEACE ANY WAY.
I wonder what netura karta will say about this?
sorry the Comparison is stupid and idiotic.
The Jews in poland had nowhere to go, no way of defending themselves, and were utterly helpless.
Theyre beards were cut off, they were beaten and much more
The Jew in jeruselam had some snow thrown at him, and his hat was taken off for 30 seconds, in a jewish state, where a jewish police and army defend him.
a Comparison to the holocaust means a total lack of understanding what the holocaust is about.
Its a bad thing, but u lose the argument when u call it ‘holocaust’
So mean!!
This is just pure Anti Semitism. But I still do believe that it is making the Holocaust look like a joke. The holocaust didn’t happen this way at all. But that is just so mean!! I mean Gosh, do those Arabs really have to throw snowballs? No. They just do it cause they HATE Jews. Ditgusting what they did. Shame on them!
How do we treat one another…spouses, friends, co-workers, family.
Perhaps it is time we woke up to the cruelty in our own daled amos
lots of normal people don’t believe this could happen and they think Arabs would not do that please post this so every one can see that this is happening now.
thats a very rude thing to say!!!!!!! it is simaler in a way…. okay? don’t ever say shame on u moshe ever again!
You cannot compare every anti-Jewish act to Nazism. This is NOT nazism. Jews should use their brains.
Do you believe that what happened through the Nazis y’s started with bullets and death camps? No, it started with exactly this type of behavior. The dehuminization, public humiliation, and targeting of Yidden. This is sadly a PERFECT comparison. Don’t take it lightly. If you care about the victims of Nazi Germany, take this seriously.
They should have hit back or thrown snowballs back. These arabs know they could do it and get away. That is the problem. Every Jew nearby should have gathered snowballs and pelted these arabs.
yet Jews like to act weak.
When Jews act strong the enemies of Israel melt away.
Stop cowering and stand strong. Every Jew a 22!
For all those people that dislike the comparison, the point Ida’s boy that the snowballs are just as bad as the holocaust bullets.. The point is that the hate still exists, and that hatred is what we need too be aware of…
We need to start asking for moishiach, and letter prove Hashem that he doesn’t need to send us videos like this for us to ask for moshiach
os aravim eles tem falata de eucao eles sao uns idiotas
QUE POSSAMOS TRAZER MASHICH JA AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you really just compare genocide to a few snowballs? These bochurim acted like the victims they are taught to. Their unwillingness to respond is a discussion of its own. But the comparison is in very poor taste. Shame on you, Moshe.
odesnt even look real!! nebach … that car should off run them over!! who was videoing? if it was an arab how did they get it off him and if he was a jew y didntt he tyr to get help?11 puzzled!!
To compare some mischievous youths throwing snowballs to the Nazis who shot bullets (and worse!) is a travesty and a disrespect to the victims of the Holocaust.
who do they think they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so sad think about the horror that those boys had then!!!!!!!!!
This will never make it to the news
soooooooooo mean
This is insulting to all the victims of the real holocaust. Although what these kids did is horrible there is really no comparison.
Am I supposed to like or dislike the video on YouTube?
SHOCKING :((
no matter what they do we willl always remain strong we are a burning fire that never goes out!!!!!!!!!
moshiach now ad mosai!
This is crazzzzzzzzzy !!! its so sad. come on someine do something already! ad mosai! the isreal goverment should do something american goverment should fo something!!!!!!!!!!!! moshiach now!!!!!!!!!!!
Hashem please bring the Geula speedily bimhairah viyomainu mamesh!
yimach shimom!
Some say that the State of Israel is the solution for the Nazis.
”Who know? maybe one day america will not be so nice to the Jews…” What about the current daily hostilities (albeit not extreme)?
I posher couldn’t finish watching this horrifying