By Rabbi Avrohom Brashevitzky – Chabad of Doral, Florida
Dear Rabbi Leizer Kahn,
It is difficult to give a clear response to your observations and questions regarding our “system” oriented Yeshivah students in your article. Of course, in an ideal world, perhaps after Moshiach has finally revealed himself, all that you described in your article will come to fruition. Reality then, will be totally different than our current existence. Indeed we will wake up every single morning with renewed excitement and vigor, ready to take on another fantastically exciting day of Avodas Hashem. That’s if we will even ever go to sleep at all. After all, we may be so full of excitement that it will be impossible to fall asleep in the first place.
Still, I wish to share some anecdotes and perspectives. Perhaps, we need to look at our current generation of Yeshiva students with even greater admiration and awe. Personally, having somewhat of a better idea of “the world out there”, I’m full of adoration and reverence to our young men and women who are dedicated to staying in “The System” and sticking to Derech Yisrael Sovo. Living in the cocoon of Crown Heights doesn’t provide that perspective. Going “out on Mivtzoyim” once a week doesn’t do it either. We need to better appreciate the wonderful young generation we are raising. Could it be even better? Absolutely! But it could, and sadly considering what is going on in the world, almost should be much much worse. Let’s give them credit.
I grew up with the following story. My father A”H related how once sitting in 770 near a recent Bal Teshuva, who was an exceptional Masmid and had a wonderful head. He would literally sit and learn, making up for lost time, even during the lunch and dinner breaks. Once, a few Bochurim were chatting (yes, during Seder) and this Bochur turned to my father and remarked “I can’t understand HOW one can waste time from learning”. He really meant it. A year or so later, my father encountered this very same Bochur having a small conversation, during Seder. My father reminded him about his remark from the previous year. In my opinion, this Bochur wasn’t wrong when he made the comment, and he wasn’t so bad when he (R”L) spoke during Seder the following year. The difference is, the first episode happened when he just started getting into learning, while the second happened when he “came down to earth”… No worries, this Bochur is a great Masmid till today and a Gaon who spreads Torah and has had thousands of students over the years.
To share from my own experience. I worked in Chinuch for many years. I remember a particular episode, it happened during the second week of school. A new teacher was complementing me, the school and himself, on how great and smooth everything was running and how beautifly the students were involved. I told him “let’s talk in November and assess the situation then, that’s where we can get a true reflection as to how things are running”. Was I wrong for pouring cold water on his excitement? No, I was just being realistic. The fact is that the excitement of something new and fresh, is exactly that when it is new and fresh. Do you still feel the awe of Yom Kippur? Are you in a dancing mood right now like you were on Simchas Torah?
The great Gaon, The Rogotchover once shared with The great Gaon Rabbi Chaim Brisker, his opinion that the commitment of marriage which is made under the Chupah, is not a one time event which continues on throughout the marriage. Rather, it is a constantly renewed event, happening again and again every moment. meaning, the commitment is not recurring by default, rather it is a constant act of recommital. Reb Chaim immediately responded: Mazal Tov! Why do I get a Mazal Tov? asked The Rogotchover. Reb Chaim explained that according to his opinion he just got remarried, and at a wedding one wishes Mazal Tov. Let’s analyze this for a moment. Was the Rogotchover wrong in Reb Chaim’s opinion? Not necessarily. Perhaps he was pointing out to him that one needs to be realistic. Case in point, I’m sure at your wedding there was lots of dancing and singing. Do you still have an orchestra playing music in your home on a daily basis? The fact that you don’t does not mean that you are less happy to be married, than you were on the night of your wedding.
Have you ever been to Eretz Yisrael? Did you notice how excited and awed the tourists are? Did you ever encounter a Jew seeing the Kosel for the first time in their life? How come the residents of Eretz Yisrael aren’t as excited? Is there something wrong with them that they don’t seem to appreciate the Kedusha and history of the place? “Ta’anug Temidi Eino Ta’anug”. Chassidus explains (and it is a basic simple fact of life) that constant pleasure is no pleasure. The way Hashem created us, our natural being, we get accustomed to things and they become a little less exciting over time. Yes, we must constantly work on ourselves, injecting renewed excitement in our Avodas Hashem and Torah Learning. This however does not change the fact that we are Human Beings and as such our excitement does wear off.
By the way, all the excitement you saw in the CTeens, do you know where it comes from? From those former Yeshivah students with “the hollowed eyes and bent over postures, full of boredom and malaise”.
Yes, they are passionate about their Yiddishkite and Torah learning. They are very excited about it, to the extent of dedicating their lives to injecting it into others. They are passionate enough to go out on Shlichus and bring excitement to the entire world. They are also Human Beings. Not every day is a celebration, not every day is equally exciting. Indeed 10-11 hour Yeshiva days do wear one down and can be more challenging than walking up and down Kinston Ave chanting a few Jewish songs.
The issue at hand isn’t that bochurim aren’t expressing their excitement through song and dance. It is that that you look around and you don’t see any appreciation by these bochurim for the fact that they have yiddishkeit on such a higher level.
It is not that their excitement waned from when they were on the beginning of their journey whilst remaining on the same spiritual stature, rather that this higher level of observance( for lack of a better term) is not being given over with the same reverence and passion as it merits.
However you slice it, the excited teens were in camp mode, period. and camp is more fun than sitting in Zal learning.
Our kids in camp look similarly excided during camp and during color war.
Thank you for this. Well said. This is why we want Moshiach NOW : so that we will be able to sustain the awareness and appreciation of Hashem and everything He has given us.
שההרגל על כל דבר שלטון
The Bochur made it onto COLlive and you brought him back down to reality.
Why do people keep putting him down? Is it because they don’t want to admit there may actually be a problem?
There may be a problem, but it has nothing to do with excitement of the teens visiting CH.
They are not excited like that on a daily basis, they were on a trip joined together with teens around the globe.
During different times of the year there are exciting times for all as mentioned in this article.
Simchas Torah, Purim, Camp and other occasions.
I don’t think the bochur from the previous article was specifically referring to the chanting on Kingston or other chitzoyinus forms of excitement, but rather to the general approach of shlichus towards the outside world that learning Torah and doing mitzvos can actually be enjoyable, and that Chassidus is understandable and practical, and that yiddishkeit isn’t just something we do out of habit or because we were brought up that way, but because it’s our identity as a yid. This is the feeling that’s given to them and that feeling needs to be given to ourselves as well. That’s just… Read more »
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I personally don’t think yours contradicts r’ Leizers original article. I think you’re looking at the situation in a positive light, which is great, but at the same time, there are (always) the issues that can be brought to attention and discussed etc. And they really are real issues. It may be they’re only affecting those that couldn’t/can’t handle the system and didn’t become the shluchim you referenced, and maybe not even frum today. Or they may be the part inside some of those shluchim or Baal habatim that isn’t really enjoying yiddishkeit, Torah,… Read more »
Yasher Choach
People have to stop complaining about how nebach the “young generation” is. Boruch Hashem our bochurim are amazing. All the op-eds shouting otherwise notwithstanding.
The op-ed being discussed, was written by someone from the “young generation”
Couldn’t have said it better. Great response.
Very well said!
In camp and specifically during color war our kids get the same Chayus and excitement.
I want to respond to the writer who made a faulty Kal Vechoimer between Yeshivah Bochurim and secular teens on a fun weekend vacation. The two are completely unrelated, even though I see that underlying the lament is a point he was trying to make. I would like to respond to his article because I know many Frum good souls look at “others” thinking, Why are “they” so happy, and what’s wrong with me? I believe the writer and many who hold that same train of thought are set on a faulty premise and a flawed perspective. Years ago, when… Read more »
Yes everyone has their problems, but I think the point was that Yiddishkeit for them is something that’s joyful and positive in their life (even if life’s not perfect) while for many bochurim, it’s not.
there are valid concerns Many unfortunately have gone off the Derech.remember they are still children teenagers! School is hard hours are longI think part of the solution is the occasional change of pace like that what was recently done for The Bochurim learning in Chovevei Torah a mini vacation if you will out of the yeshiva building a week in one place another week later on in a second involving a little sightseeing lighter learning special shiurim etc maybe not automatic but a completion visible goals goals & mix in throughout the year a hands on experience such as seeing… Read more »
We and the author don’t think that the Cteen child’s life is all fun and games. But they have down time to do enjoyable things which our own children do not.
You just recruited everyone against this guy involuntarily
I would like to redirect the conversation to things that are a bigger priority, larger problems, and more urgent.
to continue the new discussions, feel free to comment below.
They’re all challenges to deal with and one doesn’t cancel out the other. And who decides what’s more important 🤔
is much more challenging than being in yeshiva, in almost all circumstances though, and I’m not talking about intellectually challenging. Something to keep in mind, in response to the title.
The baal tshuva has a greater longing for hashem than the tzadik and is on a higher level than the tzadik as a result of being far away.
When moshiach comes the tzadikim will do tshuva.
We of the older generation had an advantage and a taste of this when we were in fabrengen with the rebbe.
We were transported to a totally different level and everyone could experience the longing of the baal tshuva.
The current generation never got to experience this.
However moshe rabbenu envied the generation before moshiach, for keeping faith in this double darkness
In schools and Yeshivas Yiddishkeit should be taught to be more exciting and fresh and new
Our kids also have Hayus when are on trip days or having fun days.
Today with all technology it’s possible to make Torah live by creating more interactive classes…. it would be amazing to learn about Beis HaNikdash and immerse kids /virtual trip inside Beis HaMikdash etc etc etc… our kids deserve