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Kaparos Protests Turn Violent

The ADL has expressed concern over what has been reported by Orthodox Jews in Crown Heights as violent and offensive behavior by anti-Kaparos protesters. Full Story, Video

Mrs. Chaya Yavich, 50, OBM

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Restaurant
October 14, 2016 12:55 am

I was eating dinner in a fleishig restaurant on Kingston Avenue when a group of the anti-kapparos hooligans walked by and, unprovoked, started shouting at people eating in the restaurant, blocks away from the kaparos.

...hold on
October 13, 2016 3:46 pm

…are all of those people vegetarian or veagan????????

Not Me
October 13, 2016 3:20 pm

The “right” way to do kaporos is with a cellophane wrapped chicken. This way it is “inchickane”, and you can eat without further thought.
To do it with a live chicken lets you regard the chicken as an individual, and prompts you to do something good with the energy you receive from eating.
Wait, does this mean that those who do kaporos with a live chicken care more about the chicken than protesters?

hitler y"s???
October 13, 2016 12:39 pm

how can you compare a animal killing humans to killing animals???

agr and disagr
October 13, 2016 11:46 am

most of the comments are on spot. especially #1 and #2. we don’t keep our chickens the best way possible. I bet you that the Rebbe’s chicken was not from those cages where they chickens were tiny, scared and dirty. It really is not the greatest sight. However, its just funny that those protesters choose whats an easy shot. Let them go to MacDonalds who sells meat and chicken nationwide, or anyone else who is doing mass producing of poultry and meat. This is really sad. If I was there and saw those people, I’d just say “people, get yourself… Read more »

A voice in the wilderness
October 13, 2016 9:45 am

Why does this yearly ritual have to be carried out so blatantly in the public gaze? It is just asking for trouble and anti-Semitic rants.

The video COL posted is a pretty weak excuse for violent
October 13, 2016 9:31 am

The video didn’t catch the group marching up and down kingston avenue using four letter words. Whoever took the video should have his mouth washed out. Its disgusting how he talks. Anyways this video doesn’t support the violence you headlined, but maybe you didn’t watch it. The guy speaking (who was taking the video) is a pretty grub fellow, so he’s no proof for “violence”.
Best,
Shalom

i was there
October 13, 2016 8:05 am

I was actually impressed how smooth kapporos ran. And the chickens were treated just fine. These yellers need get lost

Kapporos
October 13, 2016 6:36 am

Greetings from some of our new ‘yuppie’ neighbors that are being welcomed to rent & even buy property here. The Rebbe was against selling & renting to them especially just for increased parnossa!

Teach them the Jewish view
October 13, 2016 2:11 am

These protests look at things from a secular, “humanistic” view, that views animals as not much different than people.Someone should write a book, if there isn’t one, explaining the Jewish view on animals according to halacha and chassidus. If one reads the machzor, they will see about animals being slaughtered, their blood being sprinkled, and a goat tossed down a cliff. Humane laws created by people differ from Torah laws given by Hashem.

Williamsburg
October 13, 2016 1:31 am

i was on Bedford Avenue at a quiet and large kaparos no demonstrations. yes it was on private property i think its time we do the same

its crossing a line
October 13, 2016 12:39 am

this is really upsetting, how we let them yell at us.
im glad bigger jewish org are picking up on this.
in addition i think,
the police should be tougher on them, they just roll around in every ones way. i felt extremely upset and defensive on my own neighborhood street.
every year the group is getting bigger.
i remember when it was a small handful of people

to #27
October 13, 2016 12:26 am

you are right

Hypocrits
October 13, 2016 12:23 am

I saw one wearing a leather jacket and they some had leather purse. So the hypocrits pick and choose. They just hate religious Jews.

They have a point!?
October 13, 2016 12:02 am

This has nothing to do with the fact that we don’t hold chickens the right way or the fact that we slater animals, for if that was their point they can go to the slaughter houses farms and local grocerys and to all that aren’t vegetarian, this is disgusting to come to the most kind community’s that has a tradition to give chicken to the poor before the holidays and make us look like murderers, they are self hating Jews who can’t be proud of the things that we do! We can’t acknowledge even the true points they mention for… Read more »

On Utica and East NY
October 12, 2016 11:54 pm

There’s a halal market, 10 short blocks from the once-a-year kapparos ‘massacre’, where a systematic, daily genocide is taking place against poor chickens and other poultry.
Can’t wait to see the protesters there. Or are they afraid of exercising their first amendment rights against the religion of peace?

How do we prevent a reoccurrence?
October 12, 2016 11:46 pm

I went with my husband and 2 babies. What went on there was not ok. I was very scared and so were my kids. Police just stood there and demonstrators were very obnoxious and nasty. Then they make it out like we are the savages. What could be done for the future?

cops said...
October 12, 2016 11:46 pm

It’s easier to arrest them if the kapporos are held on private property, rather than on the street. Maybe next year?

To #2, they don't care about the chickens
October 12, 2016 11:39 pm

Or about animals in general.
They simply use them as an excuse to express their own antisemitism and love of violence.
They believe humans are scientifically speaking, also animals.
But they never protest against bullying in public schools, which by their own definition, is animal abuse.

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October 12, 2016 11:35 pm
i saw
October 12, 2016 11:10 pm

the guy with the white beard was walking around and
cursing saying f…. jews to all ,
from little kids to 85 year olds felt like germany ,
how is that ok ?

stupid
October 12, 2016 10:57 pm

antisemetic nonsensical ignorant moronic dullwitted imbecilic stupid blithering foolish unintelligent idiotic goyim

We show no mercy on chickens?...
October 12, 2016 10:46 pm

We show no mercy on chickens?… Neither does anyone else in world. Go protest somewhere else.

SHMIRA or SHOMRIM
October 12, 2016 10:37 pm

In this case i feel Shmira or Shomrim could have had a bigger presence and protect the people trying to do kaparos (sorry but police was just standing there)… I was by Beis Rivkah not sure how it went on on president st

Agree with 7
October 12, 2016 10:33 pm

I was in beis Rivkah 310 Crown St parking lot when these mobs came, all i can say is i hope they care about people the same way they care about these ‘poor’ chickens

PS: I was not able to do kaparos there and did with money instead
PS2: it was disgusting how they almost broke the gate, they were shaking it with such force, this was NOT a peaceful demonstration

Chicken heaven
October 12, 2016 10:14 pm

Just tell the idiots you’re sending the chickens to heaven

next year..
October 12, 2016 10:13 pm

actually are minhag is to use chickens lol

next year..
October 12, 2016 10:11 pm

They called my friends3 year old son some things I don’t even want to write.. Next year feel free to have them in mind as your kapara

Not chicken
October 12, 2016 10:00 pm

These protesters come to CH because the people in BP and Williamsburgh would not tolerate them. They would let the protesters know they were not wanted.

A common chicken plant
October 12, 2016 9:45 pm

I don’t see them protesting the grotesque slaughter done by the regular world. Ours is humane. They should applaud us and go after the cruel ones. They don’t know what goes on in the other places. But ours is out on the street in the open so they play their game on us. But they ignore the facts.

Agree with 11
October 12, 2016 9:19 pm

holding it by the wings is something learnt in shechitah and must be done in a specific way. Holding the chicken simply by the wings without knowing what youre doing, can cause the chicken pain and can make problems with the kashrus.

The Rebbe
October 12, 2016 9:00 pm

In connection with what #2 wrote…

I recall when the Rebbe used to bring his chicken to be shechted. He held it with its wings up to its body, head up, and feet down. Holding it this way causes it no discomfort. You could also see the pain on the Rebbe’s face when it was shechted.

Dovid

Yitzchok
October 12, 2016 8:31 pm

I was there with my wife and children on Sunday at 7:30 and the protesters were using extremely inappropriate and lewd language. It was disgusting to hear the gross comments they were screaming.
At least my children learned one thing: keep far away from such groups!

mindboggling
October 12, 2016 8:20 pm

it troubles me how humans could be so stupid…..

totally agree
October 12, 2016 8:19 pm

with #3 and 4 !!!

Only Gd defines murder
October 12, 2016 8:12 pm

Torah defines murder

to #3
October 12, 2016 7:50 pm

will do

abt the one abt hitler...
October 12, 2016 7:49 pm

btw hitler showed a lot of mercy to animals so i dont see a connection

From Israel
October 12, 2016 1:47 pm

To #3 – how about asking if they support abortion bichlal. Do they eat meat? Wear leather shoes? Enjoy a boiled egg now & again?

I want to know why these wackos always come to CH? Go bother Willy or BP.

Just ask them if they're for (late term) abortion
October 11, 2016 5:29 pm

Watch their expression as they fumble for an answer.
Debate’s over.

How about treating those chickens in a humane way?
October 11, 2016 4:52 pm

I agree that the protesters crossed the line here but I personally saw chickens being held in deplorable conditions. These are not lifeless pieces of wood and there is a biblical prohibition at stake here. It’s not just antisemites being appealed by the way these creatures are treated.
Gmar chasima tova.

We don't need the A.D.L
October 11, 2016 4:31 pm

We have enough of our own spokespeople. We need to demand that the police find another location for these animals 1st amendment rights. There’s no way that they’d let them get this close to a Muslim religious ceremony.

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