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Don’t Send Kids to Yeshiva

Op-ed by Rabbi Shimon Posner: Considering sending your child to yeshiva? Think again. Or rather, don’t send them. Full Story

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good freind
August 15, 2012 4:38 pm

answer to #34
Start and continue your amazing dynasty, no one has a better yichus than you, you come from thee one and only Abraham Yitzchak and Yaakov no better geshe than that,and guess what your son IS AND FOREVER BE A SHLIACH FROM THE REBBE.
P.S. AND FROM THE MOST SUCCESFULL ONES. BEGASHMIYUS AND BERUCHNIYUS.
P.S.S. TRUST HASHEM AND THE REBBE………IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

well it didn't hurt to have yihus...
August 15, 2012 11:12 am

i think it’s a very good point, i believe not only you should go with your child to make sure he has a pleasant start. what you’ll see in the place where you’re sending your child will make all the difference, as you’ll have a point of reference as to what kind of place this is that your child will be living for the time… however it did struck me that the child was admitted to yeshiva on behalf of his yihud… it was then and it is now… nothing changed. I have a child, who because a bit too… Read more »

If You Can't take your kids ...
August 13, 2012 3:32 pm

Don’t worry. I don’t recall the details, but I belive that the author’s other Zayde, Reb Sholom Z”L, put the author’s father, as a boy well before bar mitzvah, on a train alone from a distant city where he (R. Sholom) was engaged in holy work to NY to learn in Lubavitch yeshiva. There are stories of the author’s father and uncle traveling themselves cross country by bus, and the Frierdiker Rebbe’s interest in their situation. Same mesiras nefesh on the part of the parents; just different levushim.

Darned if we do, Darned if we dont
August 13, 2012 2:43 am

Its simply criminal and irresponsible to send young children away from home before 16. The reasons should be obvious to any sane responsible parent. They are still impressionable.

Agree
August 13, 2012 12:28 am

Totally agree. My husband brought my sons to yeshiva when they left home for the first time at age 14. I brought my daughter as well when she left home for the first time at 15. But what about about a son who is has been away in the same yeshiva for 5 years. He is now changing yeshivas and going to Crown Heights yeshiva at the age of 19. Should a parent go along as well at this age? And should I as the mother go into the yeshiva to ‘say hello’ to the hanholo if I will be… Read more »

MRS PERL ARBOR
August 12, 2012 8:25 pm

#29
IN NEVEL?

roch
August 12, 2012 6:44 pm

FReddy bronstien pishhhhh what a grandpa

Great article!
August 12, 2012 2:52 pm

Although bringing your son to Yeshivah is definitely important (I still remember my father dropping me off at the tender age of 13 and it most certainly had an affect). Reading the story I couldn’t help but notice a few other factors which were equally (if not more) crucial in assuring R’ Shloime Aharon’s success (and to a great degree the success of Lubavitch in America…): 1) He lived in an environment that idolized the image of a Tomim. 2) He had a real life Tomim as a role model. 3) His mothers dedication and willingness to drop everything if… Read more »

thanks
August 12, 2012 2:49 pm

enjoyed this rich history with so much we can learn from. Especially the part where the Rebbitzin tells them she got him in on a condition. Instead of saying it would be for him to learn well etc. she said it was for him to come and make kiddush for her. I think she knew if she made him feel good with this honor it would give him the strength he needed to succeed. This to me is caring chinuch!

Alfred E Newman
August 12, 2012 12:34 pm

#22 Moishe Grois Moron, why do you assume evry parent who can’t pay extortionate fees is out of work or sitting on their butt or getting food stamps. either your a melamed or hanhola who has never paid fees or an alter zeide who paid bobkos for his kids in the 50/60’s and enjoys watching everyone else squirm to meet these mad sechar limud fees when you probably have never paid, or you sent your kids to state funded schools. Either way don’t talk like like a moron. The fees have to be addressed and then parents can afford the… Read more »

nice story but misleading title
August 12, 2012 11:14 am

was hoping that u were going to stand up for us parents and put a stop to the outrageous fees, and tell us NOT to send our boys to yeshiva, but instead, to go out and start preparing for married life, go to school and get a qualification!!

beautiful story
August 12, 2012 10:59 am

well written, thank you for sharing

Oy vay
August 12, 2012 7:28 am

My son is just about to goto mesivta with out me.
20,000 miles away its a little hard to join him?
Shimon great article.
Old mate from Sydney.

To #14
August 12, 2012 5:46 am

The answeris simple. Work. Get a real job. Stop sitting on your butts all day just to collect food stamps. Take responsibility as a parent or stop complainng

#17
August 12, 2012 1:37 am

His oldest daughter Sara Stock shlich of the friediker rebbe and rebbe to CT. And son Moshe

Yasher Koach!
August 12, 2012 12:51 am

Very moving article.
Ach Rabbi Kazarnovsky, what a special Chosid!
Yasher Koach Reb Shimon for this special article and message.

rabbi posner
August 11, 2012 10:25 pm

amazing well written article i just loved it yoser koach
hazlacha
Leah Lipsker

great article
August 11, 2012 10:15 pm

thank you so much for a beautiful article. Great message

amazing!
August 11, 2012 10:05 pm

Can you mention who were the “two little ones” he left russia with?

Heart warming and true!
August 11, 2012 9:31 pm

I was a child in the same situation, sent to a foreign country for yeshiva as a young boy, my first day was a disaster, nobody looked my way, they werent even expecting my arrival, i was just a number and had to fend for myself. Had one if my parents traveled with me for that first day it would have made all the difference, as you point out they had friends in that part of the world who would have looked after me had they met my parents that day. It was a very first day in a yeshiva,… Read more »

GREAT ARTICLE!
August 11, 2012 9:12 pm

and thanks for the great advice written in such a positive exciting way!

YaKNaHaZ
August 11, 2012 9:04 pm

Mein G-tte, devorim yoitzim min haleiv. Beutifully told.
The next topic to discuss is the insane astronomical fees being levied on parents that causes the hardships, that prevent that purchase of the extra plane fare to accompany their children.

.excellent article
August 11, 2012 8:46 pm

We are currently debating how to get our son to yeshiva – with or without a family member! I think we have the answer!

Yasher Koach!
August 11, 2012 8:28 pm

Thanks for sharing that story, we need to hear things like this more often!

thanks for the nice article
August 11, 2012 6:34 pm

i like how you brought out the point with a chsidisher ta’am. just one point about valozin: although the yeshiva had closed down before the time when your granfather was a bochur (it closed in 1892), in 1895 it was reopened by the netziv’s son in law r’ rfoel shapiro (r’ chaim briskers father in law) and remained open until the second world war. during it’s “second gilgul” it was no longer the “father of yeshivos” it had been untill it closed in 1892, but there was nonetheless a yeshiva there and many prominent talmidim learnt there (for example rav… Read more »

(and thank you?)
August 11, 2012 6:27 pm

AND A THANK YOU!

so well written
August 11, 2012 6:16 pm

such a well written article is rare in these parts.

Yasheer Koiach Cousin Shimon
August 11, 2012 6:00 pm

You’re a prolific writer,I was captured & mesmorized in your lifelike descriptions of our Zeide in Lubavitch. I made the trip to Lubavitch exactly a year ago with a group from South Africa,when I saw our Zeida’s picture on the wall in the Zal,your story came to life and even more meaningfull. I had the zechus in taking walks with Zeide to his shul in Bensonhurst on Shabbosim,but never heard this story,quite amazing,we must write a biography of his illustrious life… I also remember listening to Zeide’s kiddush on shabbos Mevorchim on Eastern P’kway apt.when he would spend shabbosim in… Read more »

WOW! Amazing!
August 11, 2012 3:38 pm

Rabbi, I couldn’t agree with you more!

Spot on!
August 11, 2012 7:23 am

Here is a follow on… PLEASE PLEASE all the in towner’s in any corner of the world, make our children feel welcome, even if they have grandparents,uncles and aunts in town. Imagine what an invitation can do to the child’s self esteem. Imagine being away from home and trying to break into a whole new environment build new friendships in your teen years. The loneliness the child may face in the first few years on non school days with no family and friends to “hang out” with. If you know of an out of towner, go over to him/her and… Read more »

Awesome
August 11, 2012 5:56 am

As always.

interesting
August 11, 2012 5:02 am

It shows how yichus really helps, imagine if he was a “nobody”

volozhin
August 10, 2012 7:48 pm

there were many Yeshivos which were offshoots of Volozhin, with the same shita in learning, that is probably what his father wanted

great article!
August 10, 2012 6:43 pm

love it. couldnt be better.

You can make the difference
August 10, 2012 6:42 pm

As a principal, of a school with many out of towers I couldn’t agree more
It makes all the difference
Just one point, let someone in administration know you are coming. They will arrange that a staff member, principal ,assistant or teacher meet you and hear your concerns

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