Israeli haredi website bhol.co.il reported Wednesday about a well-to-do Chabad Chossid from Crown Heights who learned his lesson about taking precautions with Shabbos times.
This past Pesach he and his family planned to spend the holiday in a ski village in Austria, where a hotel with kosher food was set up for hundreds of frum Jews.
The flight landed with time to spare before yomtov, and they rented a car to make their way to the resort with plenty of time to enjoy the drive.
Two hours before yomtov, they found themselves in a traffic jam, worse than they have ever seen even in bustling Brooklyn. They were told the road was blocked off due to a snow storm.
The only other road which would lead to them to the hotel where they were to spend Pesach with their fellow Jews would be a 5 hour drive, the website reported.
Without any options, they stopped in a small village with a population of 40 families. They rented rooms by one family and quickly got organized for the holiday.
They didn’t have much food with them, and the rented space didn’t have a fridge.
“It’s hard to describe how depressed we felt,” the father told the Bechadrei Charedim website.
“We had no warm food for the Seder night and on the second day we literally had nothing to put into our mouths.”
He said he and his family have taken upon themselves a resolution to always greet Shabbos as early as possible and always leave early before Shabbos and yomtov.
He said he hoped people who read his story will come to the same resolution.
please don’t allow ignoramus people post halachas on your posts, according to halacha if you have everything ready fro you in the place you are traveling to you are allowed to travel anytime till shabbos
Indeed, what does the word “wealthy” have to do with the story? Are you trying to imply that because the family is rich, they do what they want, whenever they want? Maybe money affords them certain luxuries, but money doesn’t afford them a different set of standards . How would the story have been received if the word “wealthy” were left out? Try it and see!
Why, #2, do you not let your husband pick up people landing less than 2 hours away from shabbos? Also, what do you mean by “do not let him”? I am confused by both comments, in that I’m thinking a passenger might need a ride 20 minutes away, your husband could still be home in time. Also, it sounds like you are his boss, when you say “don’t let”. Do you mean “ask him not to”?
Chassidim do not eat out on pessach – it is explicit in our minhogim and trite (something everyone knows).
As a person involved in hechsherim, I am personally aware of many times that hechsherim rely on heterim of bitul etc – which does not apply to pessach.
I have known mistakes that allowed gebrockts and even non-shmurah matzah to be served to cusomers who insisted on non-gebrokts and shmurah!
I am also aware of kitniyus that was mistakenly used in a soup served to a very large oilem.
speak for yourself. that is a very big generalization
I am so sorry to hear Jews ‘speaking’ so disrespectfully to and about each other
Just because you can’t go away doesn’t mean other people can’t either.you don’t know peoples reasons for going away so don’t interfere and look at your family and tell THEM not to go away!
To #3 etc. A you a Rov? If you are, why do you not identify yourself or at least your sources? Since when is Halacha a matter to be decided by “how I think about it” and publicized on on the internet?????
you are looser.
Planned to spend Pesach abroad…..
In a foreign country…….
Landing on Erev Yom Tov…..
Had no food…..
How large of a family?
Sounds like experienced travelers…..
in a letter to an individual he wrote to come home 3 hrs before shabbos, not later than two in the winter, and four in the summer
STAY HOME FOR YOM TOV!!!
ESPECIALLY PESACH!!
were there not enough stories of being in a terrible situation, no food, no simchas yom tov, just aggravation, shelling out thousands of dollars, being ripped off by crooks, etc. etc. All because….”you just “can’t” be “home” for pesach!?”….
STAY HOME!!! It’s cheaper, it’s happier & it’s more KOSHER!!
DALOI MISHUGAAS
Is because you will not have time to prepare not in case you get stuck…
its also hashgacha protis to learn from one’s decisions, and attempt to do it more in a way which goes towards the halacha of shmiras shabbos and shmiras of all mitzvos.
See Austria is still not welcoming to the Yidden. Could of gone to Eretz Yisroel, no road closures because of snow storms guaranteed and if you got stuck, well walk in any direction and you would have found some good yid
Look Hashem how careful your people are in keeping Yomtov they would not desecrate Yomtov even if it means they are hungry.
MI KAAMCHO YISROEL
whoa…ok. Glad u let off some steam.
should not travel in close proximity to Shabbos!
whats the point of writing they were a well to do family?? mah hakesher?
anyone can be a chossid of our Rebbe. He is the Rebbe of all Bnei Yisroel, which includes all types of yidden and personalities. Let’s have the kind of ahavas yisroel our Rebbe taught us.
How dare you invoke “our Rebbe” in support of your casual treatment of halacha? Chabad mont mesirus nefesh! This family did exactly the right thing, and we should be proud of them. Oh, and #2, the law about not traveling after chatzos only applies if you are not expected at your destination, and they have no idea you’re coming. You can’t drop in on someone two hours before Shabbos and expect them to put you up! But if they know you’re coming and are preparing for you, you are allowed to travel right up to Shabbos. Unlike #3/7’s kula, this… Read more »
There is NO pikuach nefesh, as evidenced by the *fact* that they survived just fine. That you would have ruled “pikuach nefesh” just proves what an am ho’oretz and kal you are.
And what sort of heter did you find “above” halacha to have a goy drive them? Besides amira lenochri, what about the techum?
with the summer upon us, and Friday trips to the
Catskills, etc, though the message is very relevant
year round!
everyone is different. just because you didnt like the reaction of #6, doesn’t mean that you could say that he can’t possibly be a chossid of your rebbe.
that was rude.
Chassidim (even non-Lubavitchers) don’t mish (eat out by others) on pessach, kal v’chomer at a hotel. Hashgacha protis they were saved from eating out on pessach!
Having no food and being in a foreign country with roads closes because of snow storms sounds pretty life threatening to me. Young kids with no food for 2 days? I hope you judge yourself so sternly. You must not be a chosid of OUR REBBE.
there was no life threat. just an inconvenience. they were perfectly fine health wise
Growing up..my parents instilled in us that it’s a “Sakhona” to travel on Friday. Of course, there are always things that come up last minute….but to know that you will be landing on Erev Yom Tov in a foreign country and don’t know the roads so well…that is really putting yourself in a precarious situation. Come the day before. I’ve tried to give over the same message to my children that my parents gave me about traveling erev Shabbos or Yom Tov. I can’t say it works all the time. In my youth we were all ready in our Shabbos… Read more »
because of pikuach nefesh they were allowed to continue driving until they got to their hotel. and if they wanted to go above halacha they could of paid a goy to continue the drive and they can just stay seated in the car
please everyone learn the halachos of not travelling near chatzot on friday my husband is a taxi driver and quite a few times i’ve not let him pick up people landing 2 hours before shabbos …
Wherever a chossid goes and whatever happens to a chossid is all part of the divine plan. Every single detail in this story is Hashgacha Protis, you never know what an impact this situation has made.