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Those Schnorrers Got Lucky

Op-Ed: This was the new Shliach's first and most important event yet. And two Yerushalmi Schnorrers just walk in and start asking for money. I was horrified. Full Story

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I TOTALLY DISAGREE!
March 2, 2011 11:30 pm

The reason why these “people” are around is because of silly weak hearted people like the ones who think this is a BEAUTIFUL STORY. Look around 770. So many people that can actually hold a job… Man… It’s a shame. Why do I even bother writting this? When you give money to someone like that, or to the russian mafia in 770 you DO NOT HELP THEM. You validate the sin they do, waste your money that could be given to people who truly need it and create dependancy. Want to give tzedakah? Then you must look careful, you are… Read more »

wonderful honesty
March 2, 2011 9:29 am

I appreciate the honesty and frankness of the author of this article.

http://www.chabadamsterdamcenter.com/
March 1, 2011 12:26 pm
Akiva Camissar
March 1, 2011 12:14 am

SIMPLY ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING SHLUCHIM OUT THERE> VERY SPECIAL MAN….. Kol hakavod!

what is Chassidous
February 28, 2011 9:06 pm

what would the Rebbe do.thats the only question?

kicked
February 28, 2011 7:25 pm

i would kicked them out as many other exprerienced shluchim would do
Akivaaaaaaa , you are a super tzaddik.
we, shluchim should learn from you

ENOUGH!!
February 28, 2011 6:58 pm

There is no need for angry or critic comments. Let´s try to write our opinions in a nice maner, and if that is not possible, than lets not right our opinions at all. No need to offend the shliach, the writer or the mishulochim.

no they didn't belong
February 28, 2011 5:21 pm

How many of the people there – people very far from mitzvot – were turned off by being asked for money? Of course these guys had no business being there without invitation. They had only their one goal in mind, without regard or respect for the fact that they were in someone else’s place.

Even eating there without asking was chutzpah.

really
February 28, 2011 4:14 pm

I cant believe people here are criticizing the author for thinking these people did NOT belong at this party. Of course they did not belong there! And they could really have ruined things for this Shliach. What the shliach did was ahavas yisroel lifnim meshuras HaDin — and the meshulochim should be rebuked so they dont do that again! You can not collect money for your own cause at someone else’s event! What? Because they were anonymout door-to-door collectors we have respect/pity for them? If it was a fellow shliach trying to collect money for HIS mosad at this party,… Read more »

That shliach is a tzadik
February 28, 2011 1:54 pm

But I’m not so sure he should have allowed them to stay at the event.

WOW
February 28, 2011 12:49 pm

I would have kicked the guys out of my event… Akiva, Please post an address/bank account info for sending donations. I would love to become a supporter. I admire the way you acted, you are a true inspiration!

to all those
February 28, 2011 12:40 pm

who think that the shliach should have done just that- is disgusting. shluchim do not need to host those two so they can collect money- let them be mentshlich people and go somewhere else or ask permission! what the shliach did was unreal!

DG770
February 28, 2011 12:16 pm

These shnorrers were obviously phony. If they were real, they would have had the menchlichkeit and the common sense not to barge into a private event full of not-yet religious people, and cause a chillul Hashem. Frankly, I’m downright taken aback that no one here is suggesting that perhaps it would be a good idea to give true tzeddakah by donating to Akiva’s chabad house. It breaks me heart when I see people in Crown Heights giving money to the tax-money-rich phony shnorers and drug addicts, when all this good money could be given to help shluchim, or to an… Read more »

Give him a break
February 28, 2011 12:11 pm

The writer told this story to point out his own mistake – we shouldn’t judge the writer. He was trying to protect the new shaliach from possible embarrassment, but instead he learned how to treat tzedakeh collectors. Kol ha kavod to him for sharing his story!

Thank you and a question
February 28, 2011 12:05 pm

This was a beautiful story. Thank you COLLIVE for publishing it. My question is… how do people traveling to raise tzedakah pay for those expensive plane tickets and their lodging? Couldn’t they just use the money they would have spent on plane fare?

Wolf
February 28, 2011 10:32 am

Where does it say in Torah that one asking for Tzedakah is a travesty worthy of rebuke? Where does it say that fundraising “ruins” a party? In fact, the Torah forbids embarrassing others and chasing away the poor! The Beis HaMikdash was destroyed because someone had the nerve to embarrass a Jew at a party. The author of this article has some homework to do because he is way out of line.

Beautiful!
February 28, 2011 9:51 am

A special story from every angle

shnorrers
February 28, 2011 9:44 am

why use a degrading term. Its not a matter of being politically correct, it is called menchlichkeit. Great story, good point, but it looks like you still need some time spent in the shliachs company . It is a great challenge for every shliach to be able to not judge people and just accept them. It is even harder when they are meshulachim possibly disrupting your event. As a lubavitcher who prides himself on not judging others, I am always blown away by the shluchim in my area that show unbelievable ” non-judgemental” mentality. I believe this was a hallmark… Read more »

la costa
February 28, 2011 9:41 am

its time to stop calling them schnorers. most through no fault of their own are are poor. they can be called mishulochim or collectors but not schnorers. as a smart women once told me when the door bell rings, always remember what side of the door you are on (and who put you there!)

THIS is it!
February 28, 2011 9:37 am

The definition of Mesiras nefeh! I hate to think how most of us would act under these circumstances…

I would have lost it
February 28, 2011 8:39 am

Amazing how Shluchim act. I would have sent these guys flying in a heart beat.

Number 5: You are embarrassing

Baal teshuva
February 28, 2011 8:20 am

This feeling of ahavos Yisroel from shluchim and the Rebbe is what first connected me and still connects me to Chabad. And, by example, this learned ahavos Yisroel is what later led me to being open/receptive to connecting with my basheret/kallah when she came into my life, thank G-d! May Hashem continue to bless Chabad, b’nei Yisroel, and ha’olam. Moshiach soon!

504
February 28, 2011 7:55 am

Proud to be a cousin of the Cammisars 🙂

TO the Writer
February 28, 2011 5:10 am

Wow!! Thank you for putting this into such beautiful terms!

lets be realistic
February 28, 2011 4:55 am

shluchim are human beings too and no, the way this shliach behaved is admirable, overcoming all the feelings that any normal shliach in such a situation would have at the sight of these two at their first (or any) function.
Kol Hakavod to Rabbi Camissar, lets not make it as if its no big deal, or as if we can not understand the point of view of the author.

Elchonon
February 28, 2011 3:52 am

Dear Writer:
Have you ever heard of the wheel of life ? the cycle of mazal..

I was very hurt that you described these men as “shnorers” and then went on to attack their mosdos

Let me tell you this, in my short life ive been at both ends of circle.. both helping others and requesting money.

Dont be so arrogant!!! Dont you attack someone raising money.. I know fundraisers that do it purely l’sheim shamayim even though they hate it!!

Get off your high horse please

Yasher Koach
February 28, 2011 2:27 am

A Kiddush Hashem!

Thanks for bringing it to our attn
February 28, 2011 1:47 am

Beautiful

To the writer:
February 28, 2011 1:02 am

This is the obvious way that any real shliach of the Rebbe would behave. The fact that you tried to treat these Yidden as less than human is embarrassing.

Beautiful. Thank-you.
February 28, 2011 12:51 am

COLLIVE
Did i tell you how wonerful you are?
A wonderful website bringing torah-thoughts and torah-empowerment to yidden.

Kol hakavod
February 28, 2011 12:32 am

Wow

And that's precisely
February 28, 2011 12:21 am

the way it should be. You can’t pick and choose which mitzvah you will or won’t perform. Living in Kfar Chabad, where there are multitudes of ongoing chesed, you should know better.

gooo akiva!!!
February 27, 2011 11:54 pm

great guy! and very devoted!!!

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